clay bars
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Gary Sword
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There are different degrees of course ness in the clay but I not sure there is much difference between the brands. I recently used Wolfgang Elastic Poly Clay on my van which had all kinds on junk on the paint. It's amazing how good clay works. Whoever the person was in Japan who thought of using clay to clean paint on a car deserves an award.
supercharged
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Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay (green) is ultra fine grade, and can be used as aften as needed. It suppese not to remove any wax/sealant protection. Sealant - probably yes, as far as wax - I'd rather rewax quickly.
Other grades clay are usually medium grade, and will for sure remove any wax/sealant protection. Designed to be used 2-3 times a year on a lot of contaminents.
Other grades clay are usually medium grade, and will for sure remove any wax/sealant protection. Designed to be used 2-3 times a year on a lot of contaminents.
ryandamartini
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ltoman said:
There are different clay bars as far as abrasiveness, [megs red], and sizes. However most regular clay is the same as its manufactured at one plant, and distributed to sellers in the us. Now there are beter grades than others, but any reputable name should offer good clay
supercharged
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Never used clay magic. Byut speaking of Meguiar's (not their professional clay, that comes in 7 oz bars) and Mothers I personally prefer Mothers. It is softer clay and easier to work with. In addition I just love Showtime QD.ltoman said:
ryandamartini
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Reddwarf said:
see my post above. basically, tehnically, yes. But there are different grades and sizes.
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Most manufacturers colorize the plastic to identify differing abrasive strengths (i.e. Clay Magic Blue is a fine to medium abrasive, whereas the Red is a medium abrasive) It is also very effective on paint over-spray, if the over-spray is particularly heavy, you may want to seek the assistance of a professional. http://www.claymagic.net/
Note- Colouring varies by reseller
a)Ultra- Fine- (Green) clay that abrades or shears light surface or imbedded paint contamination and encapsulates it. This type of clay is mild enough for frequent use without overly abrading the paint surface.
b)Medium- (Blue) clay is used to remove heavier surface contaminants (bird excrement and bug reside) it is more abrasive than the ultra-fine grade and abrades the paint surface, while the clay encapsulates it
c) Medium to Heavy duty- (Red) clay is used to remove paint over-spray; it contains a slightly stronger abrasive that abrades the paint, while the clay encapsulates it
There are only a couple manufactures of clay and patents protect the technology, with some subtle difference
(Elastic and Poly) in consistency and firmness, a recent court hearing found components of the “elastic clay” to be a patent infringement and the judge ordered sale of the product to be halted. (In the United States, Auto Wax Co. (now owned by Illinois Tool Works Inc.) owns the US patent rights for detailing clay
Auto Wax owns six patents relating to clay products and provides private label clay to many of the detail industry’s leading companies - http://www.automagic.biz/specialt.htm
As a result, all of the Polybutene (Polyisobutylene) or plastic clay being manufactured now comes from the same factory in Japan, which as the only patent holder has a monopoly on the market. Meguiars, Mothers, Sonus, Zaino, et al get their clay either from Japan or from a US licensed manufacturer.
But the formulation can vary significantly, mainly;
Note- Colouring varies by reseller
a)Ultra- Fine- (Green) clay that abrades or shears light surface or imbedded paint contamination and encapsulates it. This type of clay is mild enough for frequent use without overly abrading the paint surface.
b)Medium- (Blue) clay is used to remove heavier surface contaminants (bird excrement and bug reside) it is more abrasive than the ultra-fine grade and abrades the paint surface, while the clay encapsulates it
c) Medium to Heavy duty- (Red) clay is used to remove paint over-spray; it contains a slightly stronger abrasive that abrades the paint, while the clay encapsulates it
There are only a couple manufactures of clay and patents protect the technology, with some subtle difference
(Elastic and Poly) in consistency and firmness, a recent court hearing found components of the “elastic clay” to be a patent infringement and the judge ordered sale of the product to be halted. (In the United States, Auto Wax Co. (now owned by Illinois Tool Works Inc.) owns the US patent rights for detailing clay
Auto Wax owns six patents relating to clay products and provides private label clay to many of the detail industry’s leading companies - http://www.automagic.biz/specialt.htm
As a result, all of the Polybutene (Polyisobutylene) or plastic clay being manufactured now comes from the same factory in Japan, which as the only patent holder has a monopoly on the market. Meguiars, Mothers, Sonus, Zaino, et al get their clay either from Japan or from a US licensed manufacturer.
But the formulation can vary significantly, mainly;
- Density or plasticity
- Abrasive particulate size
- Abrasive used (i.e. Kaolin, diatomaceous earth, etc)
- Abrasive density ratio (abrasive content to clay)