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can someone please tell me when you would you a cleansing
lotion and why?
 
I think a lot of it depends on your interpretation of a "cleansing lotion". IMO, it's an all-in-one cleaner and glaze. Such products include SEPC, PCL, and maybe even VM. I really like SEPC under any carnauba wax - adds a touch of wetness and gloss. For some reason, VM doesn't work for me.
 
Joe, consider using a paintwork cleansing lotion for a number of reasons:

I think of PCL as clay in a bottle. Although I may clay my vehicles every 6 months or so to remove imbeded debris, I'll use PCL every 2-3 months to remove any spotting or minor surface imperfections that are left sitting on the surface following washing or exposure to rain. It also works great on glass to remove acid rain spotting or streaking.

Secondly I use PCL to prepare the paintwork for further treatment or waxing.
In the summer when I can wash, dry and wax my vehicles on a regular basis I like to use Carnuba wax (P21S Concours or Pinnacle Souveran) for its looks and shine. In the Winter however I prefer to use an Acrylic Sealer (like the Klasse twins) for its protection and durability. During the switchover I will use PCL (typically P21S) to completely strip the surface of any previous layers or products as part of the process.

Hope this helps and not confuses.
 
BritOn2wheels said:
Joe, consider using a paintwork cleansing lotion for a number of reasons:

I think of PCL as clay in a bottle. Although I may clay my vehicles every 6 months or so to remove imbeded debris, I'll use PCL every 2-3 months to remove any spotting or minor surface imperfections that are left sitting on the surface following washing or exposure to rain. It also works great on glass to remove acid rain spotting or streaking.

Secondly I use PCL to prepare the paintwork for further treatment or waxing.
In the summer when I can wash, dry and wax my vehicles on a regular basis I like to use Carnuba wax (P21S Concours or Pinnacle Souveran) for its looks and shine. In the Winter however I prefer to use an Acrylic Sealer (like the Klasse twins) for its protection and durability. During the switchover I will use PCL (typically P21S) to completely strip the surface of any previous layers or products as part of the process.

Hope this helps and not confuses.
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BritOn2wheels , thanks for the right up. No doubt then cleansing lotions have a place in a detailers arsenal. Thanks
 
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Thanks BritOn2Wheels, That answers a burning question i had also:righton:
 
A PCL is an absolutely necessary part of detailing, especially designed for individuals that dont clay and polish vehicles. It prepares the paint via chemically cleaning and removing oxidation, and likely fills the scratches and swirls. Dont see it needing to be used if you properly prep the finish step via step.
 
Could it be used on a new car in place of claying.
Also it sounds like a maintenence you could do before you get to a yearly claying..
 
I prefer to use PCL after the claying, not before. That way I'm starting with a clean canvas. Just my $0.02
 
It is kind of a small niche product; one which I use very infrequently. I definitely don't see it as a subsitute for clay, but as BritOn2wheels mentioned to be used after claying. If I'm going to do any polishing, I will most likely skip the PCL step altogether as it is IMO redundant.

IMO the best place for the PCL is where I was first introduced to it, as step one in Meguiar's DC trio. The reason it is integral in that system is that the Step 2 Polish, though a truly underated product, is not really a great cleaner thus the need for a PCL.
 
I think you all slightly misunderstood the comment. The masses do not clay and polish just protect. A paint cleaner was brought out to clean the paint prior to protecting. Thus most would consider it versus claying and polishing or step by step properly preping a finish.

I also believe Mothers offered a paint cleaner prior to Megs, part of there 3 part system that has been around since the 80's. I remember Deep Cleaning from Megs coming out after, though they might have had a similar product. Either way, Pinnacles Lotion and P21S GEPPC both run circles around them if you are looking for a paint cleaner only.
 
I would like the PCL as an after clay cleaner and before AIO and UPP.......

unless the AIO would be redundant if using the PCL......
 
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BILL said:
I would like the PCL as an after clay cleaner and before AIO and UPP.......

unless the AIO would be redundant if using the PCL......
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It would be. I've never used the Pinnacle PCL product, but AIO (at least the older version) is a pretty darned good cleaner I don't see something coming the need for further paint cleaning after its use.

killrwheels@autogeek, I don't recall when the Meg's Deep Crystal system was introduced and don't recall a comparable Mother's product, but don't doubt its existence.

As stated, I've never used the Pinnacle PCL product, or GEPC but do have the S100 SEPC (arguably the same product as GEPC). Like AIO, I would not compare any of those to the Meguair's PCL product as they are kind of a dual function products (and in the case of AIO a triple if you believe it provides some protection ;) ), peforming cleaning and providing some gloss.
 
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