Clear Coat Damage! What Should I do?

FMINUS said:
My wife had that ALL OVER her car (1990 Honda Civic DX) I used a razor blade to remove it and tried to wax it (fogive me, this was over 5 years ago). It looked ok, much better than the peel.

I would say just remove it w a razor then smooth it out as much as you can with a polish. It wont look bad until the wax/glaze wears out.
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Oh my..caveat emptor, eh???
 
richy said:
Oh my..caveat emptor, eh???
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Yep!!
That is the rule of buying a used car!!:D
But my husband wants it to be perfect in all regards....and now that is not happening. He keeps sinking $$ into it. It is not worth much.
 
How did you get it so bad anyway?
Not washing it regularly? Letting birds poop and just leaving it on forever?
Not waxing/sealing?
 
supercharged said:
How did you get it so bad anyway?
Not washing it regularly? Letting birds poop and just leaving it on forever?
Not waxing/sealing?
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Ok, well, the rest of it looks fine - no damage. I cleaned up the paint with ssr2.5 and waxed it and all, but not the roof! No pc up there. I got to it this spring.
I just started taking care of his cars after I got the vette late last summer, and discovered AG and its products. I tested the pc on that van.
That van was bought off ebay at a steal of a deal when it was 2 or 3 years old. It came with the dents - that we did not do.
But no one waxed it or did anything to it when we got it - neither my husband or son, not even once - until I did now. I mean maybe the former owners did, but my husband neglected it, plus it sits outside.
I mean he even failed to take care of the tranny fluid and blew the transmission!!! And this is a guy who has rebulit cars so he knows what to do. Pure neglect. Wrong things come first sometimes, and that cost us. Luckily, we have a fleet - but we had one less then.
So, come on, what else can we expect.....lol:o :o
 
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ltoman said:
Yep!!
That is the rule of buying a used car!!:D
But my husband wants it to be perfect in all regards....and now that is not happening. He keeps sinking $$ into it. It is not worth much.
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Tell him to trade it in, its a Plymouth of which the company went bye bye lol, don't worry about the CC. The damage you have would require being sanded down, repainted and cleared.
 
Oxidation; clear coat paint does not oxidize; it fails and requires compound polishing to remove paint and re-painting to correct it. To remove the oxidized paint (Optimum Compound or Optimum Polish) with a cutting foam pad (LC orange or yellow, PC speed #4, or a high speed rotary at 1100RPM

In some instances a chemical cleaner (Zaino ZPC Fusion or Klasse All-In-One) and detailer’s clay or a suitable abrasive polish, dependant upon how severe the problem (Optimum Compound or Optimum Polish) with a cutting foam pad (LC orange or yellow, speed #4 or 1100RPM Rotary) may temporarily rectify the problem, if not the only then viable treatment would be replacement (i.e. repainting)
 
If I may add my $0.02, I agree with TOGWT and ZoranC. You can use the PC on it if you want lauren and I would go with the advise given by TOGWT....shoot you can even wet sand it and you will minimize the apperance of the clear coat failure. I helped out a friend who had the exact same clear coat failure as you and we just wet sanded and polished it and you can hardly see the clear coat failure. Oh and I used the Metabo, don't be shy on using the PC you won't make it any worse oh and don't be scared if you see some color go on to your pads it's okay it's just the paint.

Think of it this way, imagine that the vehicle didn't have a clear coat. You can still polish it you just have be a little carefull that's all. Man if I lived near you I'd have that van looking like new again ;)

But that's just my $0.02 hope it helps.
 
Nica said:
If I may add my $0.02, I agree with TOGWT and ZoranC. You can use the PC on it if you want lauren and I would go with the advise given by TOGWT....shoot you can even wet sand it and you will minimize the apperance of the clear coat failure. I helped out a friend who had the exact same clear coat failure as you and we just wet sanded and polished it and you can hardly see the clear coat failure. Oh and I used the Metabo, don't be shy on using the PC you won't make it any worse oh and don't be scared if you see some color go on to your pads it's okay it's just the paint.

Think of it this way, imagine that the vehicle didn't have a clear coat. You can still polish it you just have be a little carefull that's all. Man if I lived near you I'd have that van looking like new again ;)

But that's just my $0.02 hope it helps.
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thank you guys!
carlos - wish I knew how to wetsand!
wish you did live near me - you have talent I will never have! but I will see what i can do to patch it up. Many thanks, everyone!

surfer - dodge, plymouth, chrysler - is there a difference? it is all the same! lol
 
Lauren,
I have one spot of clear coat failure on my hood. The car is silver which I'm sure helps but I found wax will cover it up for a short time, through 1 or 2 washings then I have to rewax.
 
I was happy to see that is wasn't your vette, princess Lauren.
 
Just figured id let you know Lauren that you do not have to worry about thinning your clearcoat with the PC, that was not caused by thinning it with a PC. A PC does almost nothing to the overall thickness of the paint, it is an insanely gentle machine.

Also I have had customers cars with clear coat failure and I have found if I polish it, it helps make it a smooth transition into the failure rather than a line, and it also brings some gloss to the color coat undermeath, In fact I got some clear coat failure on a 98 mercury (green) to be almost invisible, but then again I used a rotary for that.
 
ron231 said:
Just figured id let you know Lauren that you do not have to worry about thinning your clearcoat with the PC, that was not caused by thinning it with a PC. A PC does almost nothing to the overall thickness of the paint, it is an insanely gentle machine.

Also I have had customers cars with clear coat failure and I have found if I polish it, it helps make it a smooth transition into the failure rather than a line, and it also brings some gloss to the color coat undermeath, In fact I got some clear coat failure on a 98 mercury (green) to be almost invisible, but then again I used a rotary for that.
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this is definitely the answer I like best!!:D
but seriously, that is good to hear - I was hoping that might be possible. I am going to give it a try. it can't look much worse - the peeling area, that is!
gracias, ron!

gary - chevy would have a real proble were it the vette! lol:o :o :p
 
Yea the more I think about it the more I realize I should have taken before and after pics of that mercury's clear coat failure. But I really did not like working on that car so I did not take any after pictures, it was disgusting inside and the trunk and hood were repainted by someone wearing a blindfold. However the CC failure I buffed was in the original paint, process was (on my makita of course) edge2000 green wool with presta ultra cutting cream, followed by edge2000 wave white pad with OP, then hit it with a megs finishing pad on the pc with RMG, I found the oils in the RMG to help minimize the visibility of the CC failure actually.

Oh yea, topped it all off with 845.
 
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