Clearkote, Finish Kare, Duragloss, Optimum Qd'ers

Sevenrd said:
I use 425 over sov with great results. The 425 doesn't strip the wax.
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Great news thank you for the reply. Have you put a new layer of sov wax on over the 425? The reason I ask is because I some times don't wash my vehicle before adding another coat of wax because it has been kept clean and I just feel like adding another coat of wax. I have had no problem doing it with the CK QD since it is a water base formula. JodD
 
i would throw adams qd in this group as well. have you tried that killer?
 
mixxer said:
i would throw adams qd in this group as well. have you tried that killer?
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Isn't the Adams more of a QD'er? The ones like AW are spray waxes, AW has lasted a month so far on my truck. Duragloss has a seperate QD. Though I have heard good stuff about Adams QD'er regardless of the whole issue about who actually produces the products.
 
was under the impression that OCW was a spray wax not a QD.....Actually read on one of the other forums where people would use OCW after washing their car and then use FK1-425 as a QD every other day or so...
 
all products are more a qd'er + hence the designation. I would not use any of these for spot cleaning (well Quikshine perhaps) but the others were meant to enhance the finish with addtl gloss, UV protection and thus really are more than a detailer.

As for Adams .... lets just say its a "beta" product and several offer very similar product if not the exact same.
 
I have gotten 5 weeks of beading and wet gloss with AW with 2 coats...in lots of rain also..slickness did fall off some..but expected...on just polished paint...no sealant or wax under...

I could not get 3-4 weeks with OCW....
I use 425 also..nice product..but washes off with first wash..


Duragloss at 26.00 and 425 at 27.00 a gallon...

I find AW to be the better deal..more durable and lasts thru washes..

this is just my opinion..but best to make your own..

Killer did a nice job on his review....

Now I use the Duragloss system on my truck..the sealant and the spray sealant and the QD..it is a system..like Zaino..they all compliment and work with each other...

My Honda went all winter...with the bonding agent and 111 sealant and AW when wash and weather permitted..and it was still beading and glossy in June..so durability is there...

Now my truck wears the system..and looks great...

Thanks

Al
 
Duragloss AW --- having washed the truck again for the third time and using AW till I finish it up , there are couple items that need mentioning.

Beading --- I see no real difference in beading from a wax or sealant. Nowhere near as uniform as P21S, and Zaino.

Slickness --- there must be some durability to AW, as not really noted during washing or drying but when adding another coat it was immediately apparent that slickness was present and it was if it was bonding or working together to quickly bring back alot more slickness than usually noted with just qd'ers. Much more so than 1st and 2nd coat showed.

Dust --- AW really appears to actually PULL dirt and dust to it. Very wierd but this week there is clearly more dust ABOVE the finish (it looked like a layer). It does NOT however seem to blow off after a spirited highway romp. (I drive 30 miles , twice daily on I95). Perplexing as it seems like it keeps it above the surface (protecting) but capturing it versus 425 which blows off after 2-3 minutes on the road.

Smell --- AW stinks in this department. It has a sweet suntan lotion coconut type smell but this lingering sour milk or vinegar type smell. The sour really starts to be much more noticable when using it. YUCK !

Gloss --- there is clearly some present and deepens with a couple of hours. So likely something is curing or a catalyst is drying. I would say nice and warmer so similar to a carnuaba look. 425 still is more glossier initially and after curing.

I gotta say .... I would be hard pressed to knock either product. I still personally like 425 better as I like the immediate gloss, the obviously better anti-static ability and ease of use as well as using it twice weekly anyways. AW has it beat in slickness (think UPP) and looks rather well and easy to use also. If I did not wash weekly (or twice) I would probably nod to AW given the apparent durability.

Now as Al noted above, I am comfortable that additional layers done back to back with AW will add to the finish and likely durability. That said, if I was going to take the time to do this, I would move to UPP Spray Sealant or even Wolfgang as I would have much better durability , only need one travel around the car, and UPP would offer slickness that is leader to date. Yes these two products (UPP and Wolfgang) are true sealants and will need to spray/wipe/buff but still rather easy to use. So 425 and AW are kept as qd'ers+ IMO .....
 
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san~man said:
Isn't CM "sorta" considered a QD too, or more of a SW?
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yes and Crystal Mist is clearly known as the best carnuaba based qd'er+ (I add the + whenever its more than just a quick cleaner) . But with several new poly based and hybrid detailers, we are all amped to try them all. Its kinda like Souveran paste ... you can walk away, but each time you come back you are surprised at the outcome. Drop dead good looks. I never feel bad when I grab Pinnacles finest spray.
 
Ya, I love the smell too. I was tempted to pop a few squirts in my mouth when I first got it hehe :D
 
Great review, But I torn on which to try,
Also to you CM users do you find it requier's as much effort to apply/remove as say any over wax booster you might have used? Is A/R as quick as going over with a QD?
 
Mike T said:
Great review, But I torn on which to try,
Also to you CM users do you find it requier's as much effort to apply/remove as say any over wax booster you might have used? Is A/R as quick as going over with a QD?
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To me, it's just as easy as CG synthetic QD. Wipe on, wipe off, flip the MF and a quick buff, and you're done.

The CM is a great product, but I need to look for a "pure" QD for more "everyday" use. Using the CM as much as I would use a QD will make me go broke. Just trying to decide between the QS and the 425. Ranny will be getting the FK stuff in soon and he already has the QS in gallons, so at least I may save on shipping if I buy a gallon. I should ask Ranney if he can get the CM in the gallon size too.
 
Crystal Mist was one of the first spray waxes of its kind. Not in makeup, but in the way it is used. quick and easy .... there is NO BUFFING. You literally spritz and wipe off.

I would agree that its getting harder to pick a true qd'er from a good qd'er+. Most professionals and hobbist started using them and wanted more "pop" or more "gloss". My good ole faithful for just quick wipe ups is Mothers Showtime. The original Megs Final Inspection was another, but its description sounds like it changed to more light Last Touch. ( I might have the names mixed, I dont use much by Megs any longer)
 
Has anyone used the FinishKare 146? How does it compare to the FK 425?
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
Crystal Mist was one of the first spray waxes of its kind. Not in makeup, but in the way it is used. quick and easy .... there is NO BUFFING. You literally spritz and wipe off.

I would agree that its getting harder to pick a true qd'er from a good qd'er+. Most professionals and hobbist started using them and wanted more "pop" or more "gloss". My good ole faithful for just quick wipe ups is Mothers Showtime. The original Megs Final Inspection was another, but its description sounds like it changed to more light Last Touch. ( I might have the names mixed, I dont use much by Megs any longer)
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I agree. I love the CM, but at twice the price of QS (or similar QD's) I have to use it a little more sparingly. I'll keep the CM for full details, and use the QS or 425 for their main purpose....a QD. JMO of course.
 
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