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So I have been using exclusively Chemical guys stuff for the most part, since becoming a "professional". Ive recently tried branching out and sampling other products.

Last night I compounded a Silver 2011 Camaro SS and it was awful. I used M105 and an orange pad.

The compound was like elmers glue. It would start out incredibly thick and sticky. Then it would heat up and go transparent, and then out of no where it would just grab the heck out of the buffer and leave heavy thick deposits of compounded everywhere. It was incredibly hard to run a flex over the surface without it jumping around every where. I tried a new pad. Surface was cleansed and clayed. I thought there might be some wax or something left on the surface, but ever after 3 passes it was still gumming up horribly. The longer I polished the worse it got. It would start rolling up into little tiny balls.

What have I done wrong. Meg's is a huge company with a good following. Ive never had issues like that with my CG V32 compound.

It was cold last night, but it seemed the more I worked it and heated up the panels the worse it got.
 
M105 is a wonderful but quirky compound. I find that slower DA speeds and misting distilled water works allows the product to achieve best results. Have you tried Sonax or Menzerna compounds and polishes?
 
Just02896 said:
M105 is a wonderful but quirky compound. I find that slower DA speeds and misting distilled water works allows the product to achieve best results. Have you tried Sonax or Menzerna compounds and polishes?
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I have not. I was really happy with V32 for my heavy compounding needs but just thought I would venture out and explore.
 
casvg5 said:
I have not. I was really happy with V32 for my heavy compounding needs but just thought I would venture out and explore.
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You should definitely try Sonax if you don't mind spending a bit more than usual! Others really like Wolfgang uber but I've not yet had a chance to give it a go. I use Menzerna products roughly 75-80 % of the time.
 
With M105, try looking up the Kevin Brown method, basically was Just02896, is a very quick explanation of it.

I used the M105 with Orange Pad and GC6, had no issues.

Best of luck!
 
Wasn't impressed compared to using M101, FG400, HD Cut, Classic Cut using it the first time. Seeing as how you have gotten great results, I might have to give V32 another try on my spare time.
 
M105 can and will gum on you on dirty paint. I've had 3M Perfect-It II compound do the same thing in dirty paint. All after iron-x and claying. If there's any oxidation it'll gum. When it's clean it wipes right off.

Though I am looking forward to trying Uber compound, M100, and M101. However 3 quarts of that stuff is $130 just to try them. Talk about sticker shock.

I found little plastic sample packets of 3M the other day. They were in a packet like ketchup and mustard...only about 4"x6" in size. The price was cheap too.
 
mixing in a drop or two of D300 on the pad for each section will make a huge difference in M105 workability. This is sometimes referred to as MD405, but I don't think I've seen it called such on AGO.

Another option is to add a little Ultimate Compound, which is readily available OTC.
 
Last night we gave it another go. Slowed the tool way down. It is still difficult to work with. My surface couldn't be dirty because there was no difference between first pass and third, so its not a contaminate issue...its just plane hard to work with. Id say it was 45 degrees in the shop but I kept my panels pretty warm and it seemed the warmer it got the more troubles I had. but it you power through it and finish off the pass smooth....HOLY COW does it finish well! INCREDIBLY well! If this stuff wasn't so finicky it would be a game changer.

Has anyone else experienced another compound that finishes THIS well with a cutting pad?

After my heaviest pad and M105, we went straight to a finishing (not polishing) pad, and a jeweling polish, it finished THAT well.

This is one of my guys starting his FIRST section on this hood. Everything but his small work space you see, is a heavy cut pad and heavy compounded finish. I, am impressed.


 
m105 is my least favourite compound, it works well but can be finnicky I agree
 
minorc said:
m105 is my least favourite compound, it works well but can be finnicky I agree
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Im glad I learned to work though the pains of it....it finishes astonishingly well
 
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