Concerned with Pinnacle Rinseless

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JKL1031

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Hey everyone.

So this is my second time presenting my concern with the pinnacle rinseless wash with carnuba. I ordered this sometime around black friday sales and have tried it twice but always ended up not using it. As you can see in the picture below, this stuff has no suds and appears to be mop water, the wash mitt doesnt feel rich at all. Im not sure if I have a bad bottle that got frozen or if this is just the characteristic of a rinseless. It also pours like water. Can anyone tell me if this is just the way it is or is something wrong. In the photo Im sure I mixed excess with 2.5 gallons of water. This was after just th rear quarter panel of my beater which I would barely even use this on.

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Hmmm. It turns the water slightly yellow for me - as it is yellow. It's one of the best rinseless products out there IMHO. I thought it was so good I bought a gallon.

Rinseless wash in general is "dishwater like" and has no suds. But it should leave a clean and slick surface. Try using 1oz/gallon. That's how I use it and it works well that way for me.
 
Hi, a rinseless really shouldn't "suds" like a wash concentrate. I'm sure you've seen it, but the "directions" from the store site are here:

Pinnacle Liquid Gloss Rinseless Wash with Carnauba, no rinse car wash, eco friendly car wash products

I've had good luck using good microfibers as opposed to a wash mitt (although it shouldn't matter - just easier IMHO to use several good microfibers) to do the "wash" part, and then dry / buff using separate towels. Yep, you'll need a bunch of good towels for this.

Hope this helps and good luck!
 
Didn't know this product was supposed to "suds-up".
Suds are highly overrated when it comes to their having cleaning power.

This product is "blue"...vs. "black"---as in petroleum.

BTW:
Where is your separate, rinse-water bucket?

:)

Bob
 
Suds would be very counterproductive when performing a rinseless wash. I would think it would make drying the panel more difficult if not impossible.
 
This was a Cyber buster purchase. I love the product. I use 2 oz. to 2 gallons w/grit guard. I'll Spray Pinnacle Waterless on the heavier dirt. I like the grout sponge to apply. I can use a soft touch and still get the car clean. Follow with Duragloss AW and the car looks great.
 
I did a rinseless wash today, not Pinnacle, but that is kinda what mine looked like. Actually that is what it looks like all the time.
 
I'm good on the suds..but this isn't doing anything to my water.
 
I'm no chemist but could it be the hardness of your water?
I would imagine that the concentrate should do its job but hopefully someone with knowledge will jump in.
 
Here 2 oz. 2 gal

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Im afraid rinseless isnt gonna be for me and my paint. I can still wash n rinse no big deal. I can slip in Meg UWW. and its found at autozone. :)
 
That looks right to me, and no you should not have suds. The water should feel a bit silky. Try another 1/2 ounce as maybe your water is hard. Use a second bucket to rinse towel before moving panel to panel. You can even mix some up in a bottle and use as a quick detailer.
 
firecorgi said:
...could it be the hardness of your water?

I would imagine that the concentrate should do its job
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^^^Good point!^^^

-Some rinseless wash products make claim to having "water softeners" in their formulations (ONR comes to mind).

-Boiling water removes the "hardness factor". Think: Distilled Water.

-"Complexing agents" can be use to temporarily soften water...Think: Calgon.

:)

Bob
 
Thanks. I'm just taking random shots of the bucket. This isn't the whole process.
 
FUNX725 said:
^^^Good point!^^^

-Some rinseless wash products make claim to having "water softeners" in their formulations (ONR comes to mind).

-Boiling water removes the "hardness factor". Think: Distilled Water.

-"Complexing agents" can be use to temporarily soften water...Think: Calgon.

:)

Bob
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Or in my case a whole house softner. I do bypass it when decontaminating my MF towels.
 
JKL1031 said:
Thanks. I'm just taking random shots of the bucket. This isn't the whole process.
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J,

You may want to check your waters composition. For me, I have a local company that I use since I just had my neutralizer replaced. Some places will do it for free or you can buy a kit. Aquarium places also sell test kits for hobbyists. I use one that utilizes colored liquids verses strips.
I used the DPRWG today and have used ONRW in the past with great results.
 
Use distilled water to Rinseless wash your car. I think most of us do that. It ensures the product won't have to face all the minerals and deposits in tap water! :)
 
I use Optimum rinseless with carnauba. Used on dozens of cars and like Pinnacle there are no suds. However I detailed a Volvo recently using the Optimum for the wash phase and later the customer told me the windows smeared in the rain. I also used Stoners window cleaner with rain-x. Any one have this happen to you?
 
It wont get as serious as testing the water. Maybe I'll use the rest as QD.
 
JKL1031 said:
It wont get as serious as testing the water. Maybe I'll use the rest as QD.
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Good Luck.
Hope it performs, as it's advertised to perform, as a QD...
If you do decide to go that route.

:)

Bob
 
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