Couple of Definitions That Are Bugging Me

[BrutalNoodle]

It seems this definition has become muddied where people who are just enthusiasts, and therefore detail their car "on the weekend" now refer to themselves as "weekend warriors".

That's why I use "hobbyist." Plus it's much easier to type. "Weekend warrior" sounds like something a nerd would say.... I kid! I kid!

 

[Setec Astronomy]

That's why I use "hobbyist." Plus it's much easier to type. "Weekend warrior" sounds like something a nerd would say.... I kid! I kid!

Yeah, hobbyist, enthusiast. As I said initially, I'm pretty sure a dozen years ago if you said "weekend warrior" on a forum everybody understood that to be someone who detailed for money on the side, not full time.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

But look at all the possible combinations of "multi-step" that you listed, Mike--how can a noob not get all confused by that?

If a person is "new" to car detailing and machine polishing in specific then they will become confused.

My list was simply possible options but they are all solid options guys use every day to detail a car depending upon the condition of the car and the goal.


That's what's so good about a forum like this one... a Newbie can join or lurk and read and read and read and this is how you go from zero knowledge to a head full of knowledge and at some point it's time to go out into the garage and take what you've learned and start putting it into practice.


On a side note....


When I was younger I use to like to brag about how many steps I did to a car. Now that I'm wiser I like to brag about how few steps I can do and still get the same results.


That's a paraphrase of a power point slide in my 3-day detailing class. You would be amazed and hopefully impressed at how much information I cover in 3 days.


Half the guys for the episode we shot last Friday for our TV show have been through my class and they are so knowledgeable and skilled that I completely trust them to dive in and start detailing over 3 million dollars in 6 super build cars by 6 of the top custom car builders in America.


Being a great detailer starts with the brain... not the buffer.


You can quote me on that...


:xyxthumbs:

 

[GSKR]

The 45 hr detail I don't get,does that include work or school in between.I could never spend 50 hr on a car insane.

 

[Desertnate]

That's exactly how I define the term "weekend warrior"
IMO, a weekend warrior is an expert at detailing his own vehicle, but doesn't really get involved with detailing other peoples cars.

Too funny, as a Reservist I took the definition in a totally different direction!

I see the "weekend warrior" as the part time pro running a business on the side while keeping up with a primary career. I see this person to be one step above the hobbyist who works on nothing but his own personal fleet.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

If a person is "new" to car detailing and machine polishing in specific then they will become confused.

...a power point slide in my 3-day detailing class. You would be amazed and hopefully impressed at how much information I cover in 3 days.

I know you do a great class Mike and I'm sure no one leaves your class confused. But as we discussed in that other thread, it seems to me that it's easier for newbs (someone not going to a 3-day class) to get confused today than it was a dozen years ago when I started on detailing forums.

On the flip side companies like Rupes have gone to great lengths to color code polishes to pads, etc., but it seems to me the basic flow chart has become more difficult...but then again I'm not a newb anymore so I'm not seeing it as they would.

When I was younger I use to like to brag about how many steps I did to a car. Now that I'm wiser I like to brag about how few steps I can do and still get the same results.

That's a great testament to experience and wisdom, and also a testament to how great the products are today. A great take-away for new detailers.

Being a great detailer starts with the brain... not the buffer.


You can quote me on that...

To paraphrase an out-take from Horrible Bosses...I just did!

But together it's worth repeating:

When I was younger I use to like to brag about how many steps I did to a car. Now that I'm wiser I like to brag about how few steps I can do and still get the same results.

Being a great detailer starts with the brain... not the buffer.

Thanks, Mike.

 

[cyclops]

On occasion I will detail friends cars for beer. Does that make me a weekend warrior/enthusiast or weekend warrior/poor buisnesman?

 

[Setec Astronomy]

On occasion I will detail friends cars for beer. Does that make me a weekend warrior/enthusiast or weekend warrior/poor buisnesman?

I used to say that if you charged a friend for a detail--he wasn't really a friend. Beer is a gray area.

 

[Eldorado2k]

I see the "weekend warrior" as the part time pro running a business on the side while keeping up with a primary career. I see this person to be one step above the hobbyist who works on nothing but his own personal fleet.

Your definition makes sense. I guess I think of most people on here who maintain their vehicles at a high standard as more than "hobbyists"

 

[Desertnate]

Your definition makes sense. I guess I think of most people on here who maintain their vehicles at a high standard as more than "hobbyists"

Good point, as there are many who are every bit as skilled as the part-time or full time business owners.

 

[trashmanssd]

Oh man i am so confused.
Im the MAN

 

[Mike@ShineStruck]

Doesn't bug me but the term Micromarring is wrong
Microscopic vs macroscopic

Micro means you need a micro scope to see...aka not visible to the naked eye..

The term should be Macro-marring

 

[Mike@ShineStruck]

Btw I'll make it simple
A Step is anything other then an LSP

Cleaner wax is a step
Polish is a step
Compound is a step
Onlything in the grey area is an AIO polish
But it's main used purpose is to consolidate products while obtaini g a suitable correction with protection..so therefore it's a step as it corrects

I sometimes just use an AIO to give depth/color while not trying to rid swirls.. Kind of like what the new mckee jeweling wax would do if I used it as a standalone vs using it in conjunction with a Polish..

The term weekend warrior to me is that something you do not not fully dedicated to for w.e specific reason

My 72 Buick is a weekend warrior, it tears ul the road and may go to autox or drag but no fully dedicated track car..

 

[FUNX650]

Btw I'll make it simple
A Step is anything other then an LSP

Cleaner wax is a step

Only thing in the grey area is an AIO polish

AIO polish?

-Isn't an AIO either a:
•Cleaner-Wax?
•Cleaner-Sealant?
•"Hybrid" Cleaner-Wax/Cleaner-Sealant?


Bob

 

[Mike@ShineStruck]

I just said AIO polish(speed, uber) as they're geared more for correction as a cleaner wax/paint cleaner is more chemical cleaning, not geared towards swirl correction

 

[FUNX650]

I just said AIO polish(speed, uber) as they're geared more for correction

-HD Speed is stated to be an All-In-One cleaner;
-Wolfgang Uber All In One is stated to be engineered
to clean, polish, and seal paintwork in one step.

as a cleaner wax/paint cleaner is more chemical
cleaning, not geared towards swirl correction

IMO...(as well as many others will similarly opine):
That statement, most certainly, is not always true.


And, most definitely...:iagree: ...with the following:

A cleaner/wax is also what we in the detailing
industry call a One-Step product or an AIO.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...een-cleaner-wax-finishing-wax.html#post289207



Bob

 

[Joe@NextLevelDetail]

I agree with the 1-3 step process.

I only count the fixing paint stages as steps.

I don't include the waxing or protection step.

I will say a 2 step polish with a protection step.

To not confuse the matter.

But I couldn't agree more with what Mike said, "back then I used to brag about how many stages" and now brag that he can do it in less. I'm the same way now!

 

[dlc95]

I've been doing this before the word detailing was a word. It's crazy the number of products that people have been convinced they must use or else they won't be able to sleep at night. Its quite a spectacle considering the next must have is already obsolete before you even buy it. When I was younger and easily influenced, I threw out more products than I ever used. Some never opened.

I've been feeling this lately.

Options are fantastic - no doubt. But I always do better when I give myself adequate time to really learn and understand the products I've decided on, before moving on to something else.

In the late 90's/early 2000's I had shelves of product that I never ended up using. 90% of which ended up on the trash.