Couple of questions for ONR 'masters'

Dubbin1 said:
It all depends on how dirty the car is ;) Since you have a black car I would be sure to use plenty of clean pakshak towels.
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Dewayne is right. Since I hose off my cars first, I dont use but 1 Shamrock to wash. and 2 foam core WW to dry, but a man cant have too many MF;s. I use Pak Shak to wipe down the spray wax after.
 
If you are looking for one uniform, definitive answer to how you should use ONR, it simply doesn't exist. Like may things detail related, there's more than one way to use ONR. You'll need to figure out what works best for you. I don't own any vehicles with black paint and understand the need to be extra careful with the color. So maybe the way I use ONR isn't the best for you. Maybe you will end up settling on a method that uses a high number of towels? You'll have to try a few different methods to find out what works well enough for you and your situation.
 
Bunky said:
How many towels do you use then on an average vehicle?
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1-2 to wash, 2-4 to dry

Bert31 said:
...I have never tried the towel method. I assume you just fold it twice, dunk it in the solution and wipe away? Sort of like QDing except the towel is dripping wet with ONR solution rather than the QD being sprayed on the paint?
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That is exactly right. When you fold it twice, that gives you 8 clean folds...and most cars can be broken into that many, if you need more just grab another towel. See Mike's article for pictures of what I'm talking about:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/29230-how-correctly-fold-use-microfiber-towel.html
 
Here is a before / after with the microfiber I used to ONR my car ... experience will be posted in another thread. Both were brand new before ONR.
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I pulled the trigger on 2 Opti Mitts today. Acording to DR. G., these will be better than a plush MF.
 
Old Tiger said:
I pulled the trigger on 2 Opti Mitts today. Acording to DR. G., these will be better than a plush MF.
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I forgot to put one in my order... If AG Black Friday is worth it I will place another order.
 
integritydetail said:
That is exactly right. When you fold it twice, that gives you 8 clean folds...and most cars can be broken into that many, if you need more just grab another towel.
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Follow up question. After washing a section, I dry it and then take a quick look at the towel to make sure the towel did not get dirty. If it did, I know I did not completely clean the surface before drying. Because I use two buckets, I am able to keep my wash media very clean but when you are using just two gallons of water in one bucket, isn't the water pretty dirty by time you get to the last few sections and when you dry off one of those sections the drying towel a little dirty? I guess that is not the end of the world, I just like to see my towel clean at drying stage so I know I cleaned all the dirt off the paint. Does that make any sense?
 
I don't wait to dry to see if I got all the dirt. You can tell by looking at the ONR on the panel. If it looks dingy go over it again with the wash. If it just looks like water, you're set to dry. Yes the water in the bucket gets dirty, but the big stuff is on the bottom and the floating stuff is buffered by the ONR. Just don't drag your towel on the bottom and keep turning it to a clean side. This is the way it was intended to be used. I would probably just use a bunch of clean towels and never dunk them back in the solution rather than walk back and forth to those buckets fifty times. I like one bucket and keeping where I am. I have tried it both ways and I don't marr either way, so I opt for the timesaver. 2BM is killer for washing with a boars hair brush because it releases so easy and it's easy to drag across the GG but for rinseless with MF it's just not necessary.
 
integritydetail said:
I don't wait to dry to see if I got all the dirt. You can tell by looking at the ONR on the panel. If it looks dingy go over it again with the wash. If it just looks like water, you're set to dry. Yes the water in the bucket gets dirty, but the big stuff is on the bottom and the floating stuff is buffered by the ONR. Just don't drag your towel on the bottom and keep turning it to a clean side. This is the way it was intended to be used. I would probably just use a bunch of clean towels and never dunk them back in the solution rather than walk back and forth to those buckets fifty times. I like one bucket and keeping where I am. I have tried it both ways and I don't marr either way, so I opt for the timesaver. 2BM is killer for washing with a boars hair brush because it releases so easy and it's easy to drag across the GG but for rinseless with MF it's just not necessary.
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I'm still a little confused when you saw don't let the MF Towel touch the bottom. Don't you want to scrub the towel against the Grit Guard just to make sure you are knocking all the big stuff off? Not saying I would use the same side of the towel again for the wash, but just to be safe? I have been trying to use the DP Wash and Gloss, which is pretty much the same thing.
 
No need to scrub because i use a clean side of the towel on each panel or section. I have over a hundred MF towels withing reach...so if i hit a thick patch of "big stuff" that towel isn't washing the again until it has been washed. Like you said, just to be safe. Everything I have outlined is my "common" procedure. But, there are always exceptions...sometimes I pressure wash the car then pull it inside to ONR, sometimes I wash the wheels traditionally then ONR, sometimes I use an Opti Mitt instead of a MF (yes I do scrub this against the GG), sometimes I use a RG brush and APC to do all the crevasses then ONR...but most of the time: it's just one bucket of ONR, no Gritguard, and a few plush MFs. I like to keep the bucket next to me and move around the car only once.
 
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