Cquartz question(or coating in general)

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I detailed two cars for a client of mine because he wanted to sell them to buy a new one. The new car will be a Subaru Forester. Now, my client wants my to polish the car and apply Cquartz on it(he will provide all the materials) but I never did any coating before. Just sealants and wax. I'm extremely nervous to do this job since it's unknown territory for me. My main question is; would Cquartz be overkill on a daily driver? Should I just go with sealant and wax?

Also, do you guys recommend good, informative videos on the process?

Again, very nervous about the whole coating thing.

Thanks!
 
I think it would be great for a daily driver. Much more durable than a sealant. Usually you can upsell a coating, I do PBL coating as a $150 add on with any polishing job.

If he's supplying the materials you might have trouble getting the upsell. After you're done polishing you're going to want to wipe the car down with CarPro Eraser, preferably twice, to remove all the polishing oils and then apply the coating.
 
Yes he will provide everything exept the porte cable. As for eraser, would some IPA do the trick instead?

Is the process of coating complicated?
 
Coatings were originally designed for the daily driver because of the durability. Check you tube for video and read the directions!
 
Since he is providing all the materials I only charge 100$ mostly for the experience.

Also I live in Canada so should he get the Cquartz UK?
 
RangerDetails said:
Yes he will provide everything exept the porte cable. As for eraser, would some IPA do the trick instead?

Is the process of coating complicated?
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In all honesty, it probably would. Eraser is a CarPro product just like Cquartz so they're made to work together, but a 10-15% IPA solution should chemically strip the paint so that the coating will adhere properly. That's one of the perks for uncharging and providing the materials, you can justify the cost to the client and you are certain to have everything you need. But that's cool that you're doing it for the experience, there's no better way to learn than by doing. 8-)
 
Don't be nervous, but respect the coating high spots! My first venture into coatings was Gtechniq C1/EXO - not the easiest combo!

Truly easy coatings to apply for the first time would be Wolfgang, McKee or PBL. CQUK can be finicky I hear.

The main things are to correct the paint and prep the paint. I person don't like IPA - I'm much more of a Gtechniq Panel Wipe fan. Either way, the paint needs to be completely clean. Work in small sections and use many microfiber towels to lightly spread and buff.

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I watched a couple youtube vids and went at it. Do yourself a favor and do a final polish with essence.
 
JeffM said:
I watched a couple youtube vids and went at it. Do yourself a favor and do a final polish with essence.
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My process would be:
- 2 buckets wash with Mr. Pink
- Dry with drying towel and blower
- Clay the car with light clay bar
- First step polish with CG V36
- Final polish with CG V38
- Wipe down with IPA or Eraser
- Apply Cquartz.

Other points I'd like to know.

How many towels should I expect using? Good microfibers towels are hard to come by in Canada. I have a 12 pack of CG El Gordo and tood my client to get a 12 pack also. Would it be enough?

What are "high spots" that was mentionned?
 
Dump those CG polishes and get yourself some HD Adapt. You can get exceptional results with a one step polish with HD Adapt. Time is money and a whole extra polishing step is a lot of extra work.

Check this link out:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ssan-370-z-griots-g21-hd-adapt-7-hd-poxy.html

C Quartz will ruin your mf towels if not dealt with before it dries in them.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...any-microfiber-towels-does-take-coat-car.html

The other thing to consider is that your using one coating that seems to have them most unfavorable reviews posted on this from over the years for leaving high spots and being finicky to work with.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/102903-cquartz-uk-smearing-drying-way.html

Just do some searching and you'll see what I mean. If you use his product on his vehicle and get unfavorable results will you have to pay for the coating? What if that happens and you have to totally strip it off and re-coat it? Just some food for thought, if you don't know what high spots are you may want to rethink getting involved with CQ. This would be a product that ideally you were working with someone with experience with it for your first time so that they could walk you through it. Just my humble opinion, but the consequences of a bad application in this situation out weigh the positives. Either way, I wish you good luck. Hope it works out for you..
 
custmsprty said:
Dump those CG polishes and get yourself some HD Adapt. You can get exceptional results with a one step polish with HD Adapt. Time is money and a whole extra polishing step is a lot of extra work.

Check this link out:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ssan-370-z-griots-g21-hd-adapt-7-hd-poxy.html

C Quartz will ruin your mf towels if not dealt with before it dries in them. The other thing to consider is that your using one coating that seems to have them most unfavorable reviews posted on this from over the years for leaving high spots and being finicky to work with.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/102903-cquartz-uk-smearing-drying-way.html

Just do some searching and you'll see what I mean. If you use his product on his vehicle and get unfavorable results will you have to pay for the coating? What if that happens and you have to totally strip it off and re-coat it? Just some food for thought, if you don't know what high spots are you may want to rethink getting involved with CQ. This would be a product that ideally you were working with someone with experience with it for your first time so that they could walk you through it. Jut my humble opinion, but the consequences of a bad application in this situation out weigh the positives. Either way, I wish you good luck. Hope it works out for you..
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I could recommend that he gets HD adapt. Or HD speed?

So Cquartz would not be a good choice for starting? What coating would you recommend?
 
RangerDetails said:
I could recommend that he gets HD adapt. Or HD speed?

So Cquartz would not be a good choice for starting? What coating would you recommend?
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Here's a review I did on their Viking Coat, on my Nissan Rogue:

Their products are so easy to use it's hard to screw it up. They are my personal go to for coatings. I don't like products that have a learning curve or take extra attention. KISS is my favorite way to go.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/97678-polish-angel-esclate-viking-coat.html
 
RangerDetails said:
I could recommend that he gets HD adapt. Or HD speed?

So Cquartz would not be a good choice for starting? What coating would you recommend?
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Why not Gloss coat? It is supposed to be one of the easiest coatings to use.

It worked out great for me. Two black cars and a metallic silver this year. One more silver to go.
 
custmsprty said:
HD Adapt, Speed has a sealant in it.

If I were you I'd send him to autopia and get some Polish Angel Cosmic, it's so easy to use. It's a two step process and it applies like a sealant. I did my GC two weeks ago in 95+ heat and sickening humidity down here in Tampa. It was a breeze, no issues. It's as simple as it gets.

Polish Angel Glasscoat Invincible Primer 50 ml.

Polish Angel Glasscoat Cosmic 50 ml.



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We are in Canada so no Autopia for us. Even if we are neighbors, we have a very hard time getting 95% of the stuff you guys are using. Just tried to find Wolfgang coating. Not luck yet.
 
RangerDetails said:
We are in Canada so no Autopia for us. Even if we are neighbors, we have a very hard time getting 95% of the stuff you guys are using. Just tried to find Wolfgang coating. Not luck yet.
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That's a bummer. Viking Coat would be just what the doctor ordered for your climate too.
 
RangerDetails said:
Can't find any Viking or Glasscoat. Bummer.
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autopia ships to Canada:


Shipping


These other links take you right to the product page at autopia.

50ml of Viking Coat could easily do 4-5 cars if applied properly via machine. I show that with my Rogue and my Rupes Mini on a blue pad. I didn't even dent my bottle.

The Esclate Lotion is for cleaning the paint. I'm not going to say either way whether it's crucial to VC working, I just figured for the price I'd do the 1-2 process.

Polish Angel Esclate Lotion 200 ml.



Polish Angel Viking Coat 50 ml.
 
RangerDetails said:
Since he is providing all the materials I only charge 100$ mostly for the experience.

Also I live in Canada so should he get the Cquartz UK?
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No, the regular version of CQuartz was changed in the last year and is equal to UK in durability, but is easier to apply and use IMO. I don't like UK.
 
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