Cquartz UK Hazing Problem

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What's good everyone, got a little problem with the Cquartz UK that I put on my Crown Vic this afternoon. Before I go on I gotta say that I have never seen the blue look this deep holy! :D Keep in mind the car is almost ten years old and my DD but damn does it look good! :)

Anyway a few hours after I applied CQUK and applied Reload, it started to haze. I have been able to buff some of it off but there are some spots that aren't coming out.

Originally I thought I had used too much product, but I have about half a bottle left and that is after doing the paint and rims, the rest of the bottle will be used in a couple days when I do the second coat and the glass after I polish the glass with CeriGlass.

To start off the temp was about 10C with sunny breaks. I did a decon with TRIX and washed with Dawn, then I gave the car a good clay just to take out any stones or crap that TRIX couldn't remove.
Then I compounded the car with Meg's UC and followed up with Meg's UP, (my two favorite combos). After the UP I hit it with 50/50 IPA, then I hit it with Eraser. Normally I wouldn't bother with both the IPA and Eraser but UP is FULL of fillers and oil so I figured I may as well make sure the car is totally free of oils, just for my peace of mind lol.

Anyway application went smooth. From what I have read is that CQUK doesn't need any time before you buff off, so I applied the product and buffed off right afterwards. An hour and a half later I applied Reload and buffed off, then I parked in the sun to help it aid in the drying process.

So first and second hour looked good; nothing was hazing and everything was clear. Third hour well not so much unfortunately. It's like when you apply a carnauba and it starts to sweat, that's the only way I can describe it.

Now keep in mind that I was able to buff most of the haze off, and just out of curiosity I wanted to see what the hydrophobic abilities were so I poured a bit of distilled water on the hood; most of it rolled off and the rest I wiped away. After I had wiped I noticed that the hazing was gone! So I'm thinking then next wash will remove the rest of the hazing. I will be using CarPro's Reset Shampoo to test it out. This is of course assuming that the hazing doesn't come back.

Should I wipe the car with Eraser and see what happens? Or will I have to remove the coating and start again?

Again FAN-FRIGGIN-TASTIC product, a little bit expensive but well worth it! :)

Cheers
Phil
 
I have had that happen with the reload, you might want to give it overnight before using the reload, or you can dilute reload with water to avoid streaking. I do not believe it was the uk.
 
kuji said:
What's good everyone, got a little problem with the Cquartz UK that I put on my Crown Vic this afternoon. Before I go on I gotta say that I have never seen the blue look this deep holy! :D Keep in mind the car is almost ten years old and my DD but damn does it look good! :)

Anyway a few hours after I applied CQUK and applied Reload, it started to haze. I have been able to buff some of it off but there are some spots that aren't coming out.

Originally I thought I had used too much product, but I have about half a bottle left and that is after doing the paint and rims, the rest of the bottle will be used in a couple days when I do the second coat and the glass after I polish the glass with CeriGlass.

To start off the temp was about 10C with sunny breaks. I did a decon with TRIX and washed with Dawn, then I gave the car a good clay just to take out any stones or crap that TRIX couldn't remove.
Then I compounded the car with Meg's UC and followed up with Meg's UP, (my two favorite combos). After the UP I hit it with 50/50 IPA, then I hit it with Eraser. Normally I wouldn't bother with both the IPA and Eraser but UP is FULL of fillers and oil so I figured I may as well make sure the car is totally free of oils, just for my peace of mind lol.

Anyway application went smooth. From what I have read is that CQUK doesn't need any time before you buff off, so I applied the product and buffed off right afterwards. An hour and a half later I applied Reload and buffed off, then I parked in the sun to help it aid in the drying process.

So first and second hour looked good; nothing was hazing and everything was clear. Third hour well not so much unfortunately. It's like when you apply a carnauba and it starts to sweat, that's the only way I can describe it.

Now keep in mind that I was able to buff most of the haze off, and just out of curiosity I wanted to see what the hydrophobic abilities were so I poured a bit of distilled water on the hood; most of it rolled off and the rest I wiped away. After I had wiped I noticed that the hazing was gone! So I'm thinking then next wash will remove the rest of the hazing. I will be using CarPro's Reset Shampoo to test it out. This is of course assuming that the hazing doesn't come back.

Should I wipe the car with Eraser and see what happens? Or will I have to remove the coating and start again?

Again FAN-FRIGGIN-TASTIC product, a little bit expensive but well worth it! :)

Cheers
Phil
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I remember Corey telling me if I use something other than CarPro Reflect as my final polish, be sure to do two wipes with Eraser.

In addition, are you planning to add a second coat of UK to the paint?
 
I've read numerous stories about CQuartz, applying, and then what?

Even Carpro's site seems to suggest topping the coating shortly thereafter with reload, and to me this doesn't seem to make a hell of a lot of common sense.

As many other wise members here have suggested time and time again, when you apply basically "any" product, let it "live a little". Very wise advice I always thought.
 
I forgot, I'd email Corey at CarPro before you do anything else...
 
You used two much reload. I made the same mistake at first also. One spray for most panels, and buff it out quickly. 2-3 sprays for the. Less is best with reload.

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Funny you should post this... I had the same thing happen this weekend on my car with CQUK.

Corey said I likely used too much product and/or let it sit too long. He recommended I do a light repolish with Reflect and then reapply. That's what I plan to do though I'll give what's on there the week to cure as I hope to remove as little as possible.
 
281 said:
In addition, are you planning to add a second coat of UK to the paint?
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Yes I am in the next week or two. I have just enough left to do the paint and the glass as I have already don't the wheels and first layer on the paint :)

KMG said:
You used two much reload. I made the same mistake at first also. One spray for most panels, and buff it out quickly. 2-3 sprays for the. Less is best with reload.
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I was thinking that's what happened, because the bottle I got with the kit has about a quarter of it left lol.

So what do you guys suggest I do about the hazing though? I would REALLY prefer not to have to polish lol.

Another question is it ABSOLUTELY necessary to wait the 7 days before washing? Only asking because I have a funeral on Saturday and I wanna wash my car and put the other layer of CQUK on then?

Cheers
Phil
 
kuji said:
...a few hours after I applied CQUK and applied Reload, it started to haze.

Anyway application went smooth. From what I have read is that CQUK doesn't need any time before you buff off, so I applied the product and buffed off right afterwards. An hour and a half later I applied Reload and buffed off, then I parked in the sun to help it aid in the drying process.
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Cquartz UK Edition
From the products' descriptions:

"The included Reload Spray Sealant will boost the shine and hydrophobic properties after the coating has been on the surface for several months".

^^^Am I somehow misreading this?^^^

MarkD51 said:
I've read numerous stories about CQuartz, applying, and then what?

Even Carpro's site seems to suggest topping the coating shortly thereafter with reload, and
to me this doesn't seem to make a hell of a lot of common sense.

As many other wise members here have suggested time and time again, when you apply basically "any" product, let it "live a little". Very wise advice I always thought.
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:iagree:

Bob
 
281 said:
I forgot, I'd email Corey at CarPro before you do anything else...
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:iagree: wholeheartedly! Email or call Corey and he will help diagnose the issue and get you so you never encounter the problem again. He is extremely knowledgable and just an all around great guy. Give him a shout and he'll get you fixed up.
 
Yeah I never understood that whole topping the coating with reload within an hour of applying the coating...directions or no directions. I think that's where the unsatisfactory results with CQ usually stems from 98% of the time.
 
silverfox said:
Yeah I never understood that whole topping the coating with reload within an hour of applying the coating...directions or no directions. I think that's where the unsatisfactory results with CQ usually stems from 98% of the time.
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So, I gather from what you, and from others who have good experience, and expertise with CQuartz/CQuartz UK useage, is to definitely bypass the use of Reload until a good period of cure time has occurred to the coating, correct?

Thanks, Mark
 
silverfox said:
Yeah I never understood that whole topping the coating with reload within an hour of applying the coating...directions or no directions. I think that's where the unsatisfactory results with CQ usually stems from 98% of the time.
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The reason for topping the coating with Reload is to protect the coating from water spots during the initial curing period.
 
kuji said:
I was thinking that's what happened, because the bottle I got with the kit has about a quarter of it left lol.

So what do you guys suggest I do about the hazing though? I would REALLY prefer not to have to polish lol.

Another question is it ABSOLUTELY necessary to wait the 7 days before washing? Only asking because I have a funeral on Saturday and I wanna wash my car and put the other layer of CQUK on then?
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If you used 3/4 of the bottle you used way to much. Realistically there should be 3-4+ application in that bottle. It is a spray sealant not a waterless wash. Really less is more, I only use enough to maintain a smooth towel feel.

I would wait a few days & try applying a small amount of ReLoad the the hazed spots and see if it removes the haze. If not you will most likely want to hand polish the haze off with a fine finishing polish. (Reflect)

It is the a best practice to wait 7+ days before washing. You want the coating to cure before introducing chemicals to the surface. Even a car wash can possible compromise the coating surface if used to soon. With that said you most likely will be fine. But make use use use a soap that leave nothing behind or you will need to do multiple Eraser wipe-downs to make sure the surface is clean and ready for additional coats.





MarkD51 said:
So, I gather from what you, and from others who have good experience, and expertise with CQuartz/CQuartz UK useage, is to definitely bypass the use of Reload until a good period of cure time has occurred to the coating, correct?

Thanks, Mark
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I have 2 layers of CQUK on one of our cars currently.

Yes you do need to use ReLoad on top of CQUK to minimize / reduce water-spotting during the curing time of CQUK. But I don't use it 1 hour later as the directions state. I usually wait 3-4 hours and apply ReLoad very sparingly. So far i have had none of the issues stated here.
 
The Critic said:
The reason for topping the coating with Reload is to protect the coating from water spots during the initial curing period.
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If a person would wait to introduce, or have introduced, any water-related substances/events (rain, dew, car washing methods, "checking for beading", etc,) during the "initial" curing period to expire...(7 days?)...
There shouldn't be any water-spotting occurring.

Goes back to my hypothesis that:
"Coatings Are A Commitment!"

-If the vehicle that is to be 'Coated' cannot be kept from the elements, that will surely compromise its integrity, during the Coating's cure-time...
Then it would be best to wait until that particular Coating's cure-time can be met.

-If not...Well it goes without saying that we read about all the unwanted consequences all the time.

JMO.

Bob
 
Mike lambert said:
I have had that happen with the reload, you might want to give it overnight before using the reload, or you can dilute reload with water to avoid streaking. I do not believe it was the uk.
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as said above here ..

and my remarks and tips too:
since you applied the CQUK at low temp. cquk dry time takes longer, the haze you saw could be from few options.:
1. too early reloading the car at cold temp.
2. too much Reload spray over the surface
3. not well wiped off the cquk after applying.
once you wipe you need to check in good light your wipe off so nothing left behind, sometime artificial light is not enough, use good strong light to check your wipe off so no haze left behind.

as a guy here said as well, if there is no rain expected after coating , its not necessary to use it, Reload is additional not another step in the coating procedure.
CQUK itself when no rain can be ok as well. but ofcourse will help for securing water spotting during initial dry time

for your questions..
you can use eraser on the car now , it wont affect the coat.
to remove the hazed areas you can use APC on these , even our new Reset shampoo can be good for it in high concentration, once removed i would suggest to coat again on these areas.

for the first 7 days you can wash the car with water only ,should be fine.
about your cquk application , at such low temp you can wait a min or too to let the coat cure on the surface and then to start wiping.
HTH, if you have more questions please do
 
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