Cquartz UK holograms

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I've applied Cquartz UK to the hood of my black VW and I've wiped it down numerous times with eraser, checked the paint in full sun, then applied. I used the suede applicator and only did a small 2x2 section at a time. It's about 75 degrees and ~30 humidity i would guess. When I pull it back out to check in the sun after application, it's an oily, hologram filled mess.

I've been searching online, polished off and reapplied, tried different towels (rendering about 6-7 cobra golds useless) and ordered more suede 16x16s. I've done this 3 times over with different methods and keep reaching the same result.

Now it's about 20 mins after I've wiped off this last time and it's a mess. Anyone able to help? Thanks.
 
How long are you letting the product on the paint before leveling? UK can be a tricky coating to work with.
 
I've had the same results lately. Applied, let sit for 1-3 minutes and removed. It's almost like the high spots take a while to appear.


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When I'm applying UK I spread on a certain area then immediately wipe of with suede towel then second wipe with Boa towel and no issues. Only with regular Cquartz do I let it set up, the wipe off.
By any chance, is this a newly purchased bottle of UK? Or is it possibly expired?
 
fly07sti said:
When I'm applying UK I spread on a certain area then immediately wipe of with suede towel then second wipe with Boa towel and no issues. Only with regular Cquartz do I let it set up, the wipe off.
By any chance, is this a newly purchased bottle of UK? Or is it possibly expired?
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This.

In high heat with humidity CQUK should be removed immediately. From working with it over last 2 years, I have found the best towel to remove it is the Megs Ultimate Wipes. I then do a final buff with 360gsm towel.
 
When I said I let it sit for 1-3 minutes, I was guesstimating that it was taking me that long to finish applying to the rest of the panel. It's always been new bottles that I've used. I've been applying regular cquartz lately with no issues at all.


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I had the same issue when I tried applying it to my jet black BMW. 85 degrees or so with high humidity. I ended up polishing it off and going to try a different coating.
 
Wade_660 said:
When I said I let it sit for 1-3 minutes, I was guesstimating that it was taking me that long to finish applying to the rest of the panel. It's always been new bottles that I've used. I've been applying regular cquartz lately with no issues at all.


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That's sounds like a pretty big section. Maybe shrink down the area you're applying and see if that helps. If you're still having trouble, give Corey a call and maybe he has some ideas.
 
UK was designed to use in colder weather conditions, classic was meant to be used in the type of environment that you are currently working in.

HUMP
 
I let it sit for as long as it took me to set the applicator down and pick up the suede towel.

I only got UK because I figured it'd be easier to apply. I made the mistake of not accounting for it being summer.
Maybe I'll try something else or re try the coating when it's cooler
 
The Blackfire coating has very similar look, and a lot more user friendly
 
I have done 3 cars and 1 truck with the Blackfire coating. I did my harley with UK. The BF is defiantly more forgiving, time and wipe off. However, I think the UK looks better.
I did my bike a couple months ago and it was mid 80s then, it is like the Congo now in Pensacola. I applied it and let it sit for 2 minutes and wiped it off. After I had to polish that off because it was a mess, I applied and wiped immediately. It does really add something that a sealant does not.No messing around taking your time with UK when temps are up.
I want to try the coating with the 2 numbers in the name next. (Don't think I can mention that brand).
 
I'm just frustrated because 1. It costs 50 bucks plus the time to apply, remove, reapply blah blah blah, 2. Because it really does everything it should except look perfect in the sun and 3. Because it seems like so many people have success with it in similar situations to mine and I somehow can't achieve the same.

Maybe I'll try Cquartz original or another coating.
 
Maybe i can shed some light on the subject. I have been working with this product for a few months now trying to really nail down the application. From I found that is in high humidity weather it is almost more difficult to work with. I know everyone says this but what does it mean.

What I have found is to split up an area. take the door for instance.left half/right half or top and bottom. Wipe it on with a few passes then wipe it off right away. I used a suede to wipe off then followed by another suede. But when humidity got higher I actually had to wipe harder, and follow up with a BOA instead of another suede. Buffing kind of hard.

This came out flawless, I spoke to someone on the boards (not sure if they want to be mentioned or not) and they mentioned that what you, and I was seeing is basically "carrier fluid halos" So what you are seeing is not marring or swirls or anything, as I first thought. But instead the product was not removed fully, needs great lighting or the sun to expose these lines.

Its a great coating IMO but like anything it takes some getting used to. Its my practice to monitor humidity and after every panel see how my removal efforts work before moving to the next section. Also swap those 16x16 suedes often!

Hope that helps some
 
Legacykid said:
Maybe i can shed some light on the subject. I have been working with this product for a few months now trying to really nail down the application. From I found that is in high humidity weather it is almost more difficult to work with. I know everyone says this but what does it mean.

What I have found is to split up an area. take the door for instance.left half/right half or top and bottom. Wipe it on with a few passes then wipe it off right away. I used a suede to wipe off then followed by another suede. But when humidity got higher I actually had to wipe harder, and follow up with a BOA instead of another suede. Buffing kind of hard.

This came out flawless, I spoke to someone on the boards (not sure if they want to be mentioned or not) and they mentioned that what you, and I was seeing is basically "carrier fluid halos" So what you are seeing is not marring or swirls or anything, as I first thought. But instead the product was not removed fully, needs great lighting or the sun to expose these lines.

Its a great coating IMO but like anything it takes some getting used to. Its my practice to monitor humidity and after every panel see how my removal efforts work before moving to the next section. Also swap those 16x16 suedes often!

Hope that helps some
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I thought I read to wipe off rather gently as to not disturb the coating's bonding. I used a new suede every time I applied. I applied to an eighth of the hood at a time making sure to use all 8 sides of the towel to buff off.

Pressure sounds like it could work for my situation because what I see in the sun is almost like high spots from the towel not fully removing.

After the car sat in direct sunlight all day, the holograms got a little bit better but not by much. There's still wipe marks and ugly swirls from what must be my removal process.

I don't want to give up on this stuff because the rest of the car is so glossy and repels water and dirt like nothing I've used. My go to lsp is Sonax PNS and it works phenomenally and this coating seems to be on par with it with the promise of even longer durability and some more resistance to mechanical abrasion. The downside is really the removal and my potentially incorrect approach.

Hopefully I can figure something out and be able to assist anybody else having these same problems.
 
Hi

As mentioned here we did the UK version for cold weathers, under 20 deg . (68 F.) but yet it is possible to use at higher temp and humidity as well.
you just need to wipe off right after applied, not to wait more then 30sec. so its basically wipe on wipe off procedure.
use the big suede for first wipe off and more plushy mf for any left residues or haze.
doing this way should go easy without holograms .
HTH
 
I applied a coating this weekend using this method with no problems. I have to ask, is the longevity of the coating affected by not having as much time on the vehicle?


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Wade_660 said:
I applied a coating this weekend using this method with no problems. I have to ask, is the longevity of the coating affected by not having as much time on the vehicle?


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No , its vary only on the room temp and humidity its applied.
 
Wade_660 said:
I applied a coating this weekend using this method with no problems. I have to ask, is the longevity of the coating affected by not having as much time on the vehicle?


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Avi@CarPro said:
No , its vary only on the room temp and humidity its applied.
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So, you're saying that the coating durability is affected by the temp/humidity that it was applied at ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

So you're finest installers must be climate controlled........
 
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