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Next week i will attempt my first ever detail with my PC 7424. Here are the products that i will be using and the process that i have planned. I will be using Meguiars (MG) products since my local dealer sells them at a good price. Thanks for the advise.

Car: MY 02 Grand Cherokee (deep green)

My Goal: remove oxidation, light swirl marks and scratches. Since this is my first time i do not want to start with alot of cutting. I want to play it safe and increase the cut with experience.

I will be using the 7424 with a 6" backing plate.

1. Full wash from the bottom up.

2. Clay bar the entire car with MG clay bar and final inspection.

3. Using MG's polishing pad and MG 83 cleaner. Remove with mirofiber towels.

4. This is the step that seems to be redundant to me. You tell me. Is this step a waste of time? Use a finishing pad and MG 82, swirl free polish. remove with micro towels.

5. apply by hand MG sealer. Is this the best final step for protection and shine?

Those are the simplified steps. Thanks for the input.
 
Within the Meguiar's line, M80 is the usual go-to product for PC/G110 users. M83 is used for those panels that need a bit more cut. Folks typically follow M83 with a pass with M80 (or M82) to remove any micro-marring. M80 is also an easier polish to use than M83, at least at first.

First do a test spot with M80 and see if that will achieve what you want.

But if you prefer not to buy the M80, then you probably should follow-up M83 with M82 as a final polishing-step.

Cheers,
Al
 
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Hey ColdRunner,

I've got no experience with the MG products you're using so I can't speak for them, but you'll want to give the vehicle another wash after you clay it.

Good luck with the Porter Cable. They're a lot of fun to work with and return a nice finish.
 
if your vehicle is that old, you will need to be agressive....

your backing plate is too big, get a 4.5" backing plate, and get some 5.5" pads, as the smaller pads will correct quicker....

your going to need more than one pad, one for each product you use....

you are going to need a cutting pad, dont be afraid of cutting, its not a big deal, and if your car is as old as it is, its going to need some cutting to clean off all the micro marring and swirl marks that you have....

i have a one year old car that i let the dealer wash the other day...i am going to be using a light cutting pad(orange) to fix what the dumb asses at the dealer did to the car....
 
You will need a cut/buff pad, preferably smaller like others have said, just keep the PC moving and there shouldnt be any problems, its a safe machine.

#83 I have found does finish nice, pretty smooth. but when you follow it with a final polish on a polishing pad it brings out depth and wetness.

Good luck and have fun
 
So, should i keep step #4? Is MG 82 considered a finishing polish?

thanks for all the advise thus far
 
Why is it that I always see users here telling newbs to use cutting pads with their PC/G110? Especially when Meguiars recommends not using cutting pads with their products on PC/G110.

Cutting pads + PC/G110 typically = micro marring and hazing...


To the OP. You shoud start with some M80 on a polishing pad. Do a test spot first. If you already have M83 and not M80, go ahead and give M83 a try. On some paints M83 can finish down to an LSP ready finish, but typically users will follow with a lesser polish like M80, M82, or M09.



Rasky
 
RaskyR1 said:
Why is it that I always see users here telling newbs to use cutting pads with their PC/G110? Especially when Meguiars recommends not using cutting pads with their products on PC/G110.

Cutting pads + PC/G110 typically = micro marring and hazing...


To the OP. You shoud start with some M80 on a polishing pad. Do a test spot first. If you already have M83 and not M80, go ahead and give M83 a try. On some paints M83 can finish down to an LSP ready finish, but typically users will follow with a lesser polish like M80, M82, or M09.



Rasky
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Thanks, i am getting a lot of advise to start with m80 and not a cutting pad. i called every where i knew yesterday, and no one has m80. Would it be better for me to use m82 or 83, if i wanted to only use one product? or do i need to suck it up and do both? thanks
 
RaskyR1 said:
Why is it that I always see users here telling newbs to use cutting pads with their PC/G110? Especially when Meguiars recommends not using cutting pads with their products on PC/G110.

Cutting pads + PC/G110 typically = micro marring and hazing...


To the OP. You shoud start with some M80 on a polishing pad. Do a test spot first. If you already have M83 and not M80, go ahead and give M83 a try. On some paints M83 can finish down to an LSP ready finish, but typically users will follow with a lesser polish like M80, M82, or M09.



Rasky
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the car is 6 years old...its going to need some light cut....
 
vinnier6 said:
the car is 6 years old...its going to need some light cut....
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Give this thread a read. :cheers:
Cutting Pads with the PC - Good idea? - Car Care Forums: Meguiar's Online

The OP also said this was his first time using the PC and stated his goals, which could easily be obtained with M80 and a polishing pad. ;)

My Goal: remove oxidation, light swirl marks and scratches. Since this is my first time i do not want to start with alot of cutting. I want to play it safe and increase the cut with experience.
 
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ColdRunner said:
Thanks, i am getting a lot of advise to start with m80 and not a cutting pad. i called every where i knew yesterday, and no one has m80. Would it be better for me to use m82 or 83, if i wanted to only use one product? or do i need to suck it up and do both? thanks
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M82 is a very mild cleaner, not sure you would be happy with the results from just that. It is possible M83 will be all you need but you won't know until you do a test spot.

Rasky
 
Regardless if you think it needs a cutting, you should atleast try a spot with something less aggressive, this way you can judge which direction to go to correct the paint correctly.
 
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