D114 Dilution Ratio as a WATERLESS Wash on CQUK?

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Hey boys and girls. Meg's D114 Express Wash was made available to my local market (thnx OldeTownAutoSpa :D) and since my car is coated with CQUK I wanted to use a WATERLESS, not RINSELESS wash on it, so I chose D114 as it doesn't leave any surfactants or polymeyers that could mess up the coatings water beading characteristics. Anyway my question is what dilution ratio should I mix this in a 32 ounce trigger bottle to spray on the vehicle and wipe away?
Since CQUK is such a durable coating I want to use as much D114 to water as I can to get the most cleaning ability. If my car was waxed then I would obviously tone down the ratio to prevent it stripping the LSP, but since its coated I want to know how powerful I can mix it before it starts to do damage to the coating, if at all? Or would using it neat effective but completely safe as well?

Cheers
Phil
 
I believe Meguiar's recommends 1:128 for heavy cleaning, so 1/4 oz. in a 32 oz bottle. I suppose you could go to a higher concentration, but you'd just be wasting product. I'm certain they've tested it thoroughly, and would recommend a higher concentration if it were necessary, because then they could/would sell you D114 more often.
 
1:128 will do it. Great product for coatings. Great product period. Its also a good IPA replacement at 1:15.
 
I envy your local store carry meg D114 :D
I recommend 1:100
My go to for D114 (waterless wash) on coating would be at 1:10.
 
For a waterless-wash...
The 32oz. spray bottle should contain:
• 31.8oz of distilled water; and:
• 0.2oz of D114


Bob
 
Big difference's in recommendations here. 1:128 and 1:10. Not sure which now.
 
Larry S said:
Big difference's in recommendations here. 1:128 and 1:10. Not sure which now.
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It's 1:128 for "waterless-wash".
1:10 is getting mighty close to "wax stripper" strength.


Bob
 
Originally Posted by Michael Stoops

:
"We recommend D114 as a rinseless wash with a dilution ratio of 1 ounce to two gallons of water.

If you're going to use it as a waterless wash you should at least double that ratio (1 ounce per gallon).

As a clay lube, the standard dilution ratio works quite well."[unquote]
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Michael Stoops
Internet Technical Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
(800) 854-8073 xt 3875
[email protected]
_______________________________________________


Bob
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Ok...that's interesting how different this product (or at least the application of it) is from ONR, for example.

D114 Rinseless & Clay Lube: 256:1
D114 Waterless: 128:1
D114 IPA replacement 15:1

ONR Rinseless: 256:1
ONR Clay Lube: 64:1
ONR QD: 16:1

Of course Optimum makes their own waterless, so maybe they don't feel the need to provide a waterless dilution for ONR, or maybe they don't feel that's a suitable use for it (hence the reason they developed a discrete waterless).
 
114 is very economical. I'm never concerned about the amount i use. I fill a 5 gallon bucket a little less than half full and usually put 3 ounces in for rinseless. I never drag the towel over dry paint regardless of how little amount of dirt is on the car. I put about an ounce in a 32oz bottle and spray down the panel first. Maybe I'm deteriorating my lsp a little faster using too much 114 but I wax often so no big deal
 
I didn't realize that Mike Phillips had a recommendation on that, 8oz/gal is 16:1 which is what has been recommended as the QD concentration for ONR...so that kind of brings us full circle as to whether a QD can be used as a rinseless wash.

I'm not going to wade into this any further since I have enough waterless wash concentrate to last until there isn't any water left, anyway (so I don't need to use my rinseless washes as waterless).
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I didn't realize that Mike Phillips had a recommendation on that, 8oz/gal.
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That's Optimum's recommendation.

Mike Phillips just took the time to list it, along with other
products in the WW-category, in one easy to find location.


Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
That's Optimum's recommendation.
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I've never seen an Optimum recommendation to use ONR as a waterless. I've used it that way, just using the regular concentration in a spray bottle, but usually just when drying jambs after a conventional wash.
 
frankprozzoly said:
114 is very economical.

Maybe I'm deteriorating my lsp a little faster using too much 114 but I wax often so no big deal
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Since the below product is not as economical as D114...
IMO:
-A thrifty person would be less likely to use too much; and:
-As such, would not fret as much about deteriorating an LSP.




Bob
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I've never seen an Optimum recommendation to use ONR as a waterless. I've used it that way, just using the regular concentration in a spray bottle, but usually just when drying jambs after a conventional wash.
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Believe I remember seeing it listed before opticlean came out. Seems to me I also read where they were trying to move away from suggesting it as a QD in favor of OID (but could be wrong on that one).
 
What about using it undiluted on CQUK? Is that too powerful or would the coating be able to handle it?

Cheers
Phil
 
kuji said:
What about using it undiluted on CQUK? Is that too powerful or would the coating be able to handle it?

Cheers
Phil
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According to D114's dilution ratios:

Even if a 'Coating' could handle D114 at full strength...
I'd consider that to be a terrible waste of this product.

You seem (to me) to not agree.


Bob
 
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