DA polisher

I'd also add....

As someone that had used all three of the current gear-driven orbital polishers on the market,


  • FLEX 3401
  • RUPES Mille
  • Makita PO5000C



If you're looking for speed then I'd go with gear-driven orbital over free spinning orbital.

The Mille and the Makita are much smoother to operate than the FLEX 3401 due to their smaller orbit stroke length. If smooth operation is important, then choose one of the.

If speed is more important then in my experience, I can still buff out a car faster with the FLEX 3401.

The difference between 5mm and 8mm may not seem like much but like I always say,



The little things are the big things -Mike Phillips



:)
 
Also....


When it comes to gear-driven orbitals.... they will turn and churn anything...


You can quote me on that too.... :laughing:

They don't care which pad you use or product. Of course, abrasive technology is always the number one factor when it comes to polishing paint so keep that in mind.


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Ronin47 said:
Here’s a perfect eg. I had a deeper clear coat defect commonly referred to as a RID on a 4x4 I corrected last night. When I focused the edge of the pad over the defect I wasn’t getting the desired results. However placing it smack in the middle of the defect that is the centre of the pad over the defect I seem to be cutting better. The orbital motion even though gear driven didn’t rely on a larger outer circumference like a rotary does. Forget the Mille or the 5000c, there are more 3401 users as its been longer in the market. They will testify that they didn’t lose cut when using the LC 4” or Flex 4 3/8” over the 5.5” or 6” bp’s.
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Yes, it still oscillates but you still have the attribute of RPM on top of the usual MM orbit and OPM. RPM matters the most other wise the mille and PO5000C would still correct slower than the 3401 no matter what BP size..and that's not the case

The forced D/As spin and oscillate..not just oscillate and not stall
Obviously free spin still rotates, but there's a set/measurable RPM on the forced

Is the correction speed difference marginal..perhaps not if you use same pad in various sizes.
When you use different pads than it could seem more but only due to different abrasive test
 
Yes theres a set measurable rpm but its the set measurable opm that over rides any increase in cut with a larger pad. The only tool that cuts more with a larger pad is one that spins in a perfect circle and thats a rotary.
 
Ronin47 said:
Yes theres a set measurable rpm but its the set measurable opm that over rides any increase in cut with a larger pad. The only tool that cuts more with a larger pad is one that spins in a perfect circle and thats a rotary.
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If pad size increase on rotary at a certain rpm equals increased cut, then the same can be said for a gear driven DA at its set RPM (not talking OPM). It has a certain "perfect circle" that it rotates in consistently as well, it just also has an auxiliary "ghosting" radius due to the oscillation. I don't understand why this would not be correct? #genuinequestion #engineer

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Mike@ShineStruck said:
it does
Think of a large tire and a small tire and the revs per mile
275-60-15 has 743 RPM
225-60-15 needs 813 ..needs an extra 70 to accomplish same feet
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Two different things. With the tire example above, you're talking about the circumference of a tire. With the machine's pad, you're using the face of the pad, aka, the surface area.
 
subyfan said:
If pad size increase on rotary at a certain rpm equals increased cut, then the same can be said for a gear driven DA at its set RPM (not talking OPM). It has a certain "perfect circle" that it rotates in consistently as well, it just also has an auxiliary "ghosting" radius due to the oscillation. I don't understand why this would not be correct? #genuinequestion #engineer

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The cutting force isn’t on the outer side more the number of opm’s per revolution(friction across paint) but thats gona open another can of worms. Bottom line is pad size on a gear driven doesn’t dictate cut, more the pad selection and abrasives. Those that believe a larger pad cuts more on the Mille or 3401 etc. may continue to think so but the reality is far from it.
 
Ronin47 said:
The cutting force isn’t on the outer side more the number of opm’s per revolution(friction across paint) but thats gona open another can of worms. Bottom line is pad size on a gear driven doesn’t dictate cut, more the pad selection and abrasives. Those that believe a larger pad cuts more on the Mille or 3401 etc. may continue to think so but the reality is far from it.
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My only thinking is that, if you could turn off the DA motion on a gear driven polisher, you would basically be left with a low speed rotary, so why wouldn't the same effect from a rotary apply? I'm just interested because it intrigued me as I was reading through (I don't really have a dog in the fight). I feel as if the rotary motion on a traditional rotary or gear driven DA should be impacted similarly by pad size.

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subyfan said:
My only thinking is that, if you could turn off the DA motion on a gear driven polisher, you would basically be left with a low speed rotary, so why wouldn't the same effect from a rotary apply? I'm just interested because it intrigued me as I was reading through (I don't really have a dog in the fight). I feel as if the rotary motion on a traditional rotary or gear driven DA should be impacted similarly by pad size.

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Your two responses was what I was trying to get across.its a rotary that happens to also oscillate vs oscillation/orbit of freespin D/A
 
Mike Phillips said:
I'd also add....

As someone that had used all three of the current gear-driven orbital polishers on the market,

  • FLEX 3401
  • RUPES Mille
  • Makita PO5000C

If speed is more important then in my experience, I can still buff out a car faster with the FLEX 3401.

The difference between 5mm and 8mm may not seem like much but like I always say,



The little things are the big things -Mike Phillips



:)
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mike, thanks for your opinion... :xyxthumbs:
 
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