Daily ‘clean ups’...Best process & products?

[Eldorado2k]

.0000000000001% use a QD to clean an entire dusty car here

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A whole bunch of people here use WG Uber @ detailer dilution to wipedown their cars + the majority of poeple recommended Carpro Ech2o @15:1 and even 20:1... I personally use it @10:1-5:1 and almost nobody talks about using it that concentrated.

 

[Eldorado2k]

Daily ‘clean ups’...Best process & products?

And why would you make the following statement...

With what we know now and what's out there, I would NEVER use a QD to clean a dusty car, no way in hell!

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...If you “liked” and “thanked” this just 2 posts up?

If a QD is safe to do a wipe down after a wash, it should be safe to use for knocking off a very light layer of dust, random smudges, or even bird droppings. I've never found a QD spray which wasn't good from a lubricity standpoint.

Do you agree or disagree? You’re contradicting yourself.

 

[Klasse Act]

A whole bunch of people here use WG Uber @ detailer dilution to wipedown their cars + the majority of poeple recommended Carpro Ech2o @15:1 and even 20:1... I personally use it @10:1-5:1 and almost nobody talks about using it that concentrated.

I chose a green crayon out of the box for this:

I'm speaking about a "designated" QD like Meg's in the burgundy bottle for instance. Now noone HERE would EVER clean their entire car with that for a number of reasons, i.e price and next would be lubricity, not to mention how many of us has numerous RW & WW's on the shelf.

Ok, I now put green crayon back into the box

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[fightnews]

I respectfully disagree. IME Meguiars Last Touch Detailer is on par if not better than Wolfgang Uber Rinseless @3oz. per gallon used as a waterless. Even Meguiars Quik Detailer in the maroon bottle works just fine for wiping down a dusty vehicle without inducing

Fair enough. You do you. If that works for you then that's all that matters, but for me personally there's just much better options for wiping down a dusty car than a QD.

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Ok but that doesn't change the fact that quik detailers are high lubericity. Saying they aren't is just wrong

 

[Eldorado2k]

Daily ‘clean ups’...Best process & products?

I chose a green crayon out of the box for this:

I'm speaking about a "designated" QD like Meg's in the burgundy bottle for instance. Now noone HERE would EVER clean their entire car with that for a number of reasons, i.e price and next would be lubricity, not to mention how many of us has numerous RW & WW's on the shelf.

Ok, I now put green crayon back into the box

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But you agreed with the following statement enough to hit both “like” and “thank” for the following statement...

If a QD is safe to do a wipe down after a wash, it should be safe to use for knocking off a very light layer of dust, random smudges, or even bird droppings. I've never found a QD spray which wasn't good from a lubricity standpoint.

Ok yea you’re making a ton of sense.

 

[bfielder32087]

Well as usual around here lately. People tend to start getting pissy or defensive. I personally feel a QD isn't a good enough product for actual cleaning duties no matter how light the dust might be.....Personal opinion nothing more nothing less. I'll see myself out from the rest of the conversation here.

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[Klasse Act]

Well as usual around here lately. People tend to start getting pissy or defensive. I personally feel a QD isn't a good enough product for actual cleaning duties no matter how light the dust might be.....Personal opinion nothing more nothing less. I'll see myself out from the rest of the conversation here.

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A-F'n-men

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[FUNX650]

I like to keep my vehicles clean. Duh. That’s why I’m here lol. Unfortunately I live in New England so winter is impossible...But, FINALLY, the nice weather is here.

I clean the cars on the weekend and am wondering what to use to clean them up during the week. QD’s, if I put enough on to ensure I’m not scratching the paint, leaves a haze.

Is there a dilution I should try?

Thanks everyone.

•IMO:
1.) The following Mike Phillips’ article clarifies
the role, that Spray Detailers (QD’s) play in
car-care, to the nth degree.

2.) It’s a must read.


Tips & Techniques for using a Spray Detailer to Remove Light Dust, Fingerprints and Smudges


Bob

 

[BillyJack]

IMO, QD's , when used on a dry vehicle, are only for those which have acquired dust while parked inside and stationary. I use GG's Best of Show, Speed Shine, and Kenotech on my Dark Burgundy El Camino with original lacquer and have never generated swirls.
Once it has been outdoors, it's Waterless or Rinseless washes only. Since I've polished the aged, deteriorating paint to marginal thickness over the years, I'm not about to take any chances.
I hold to the same principles on my Black DD with modern paint and with the exception of a few times when I've done waterless where I probably should have done Rinseless, my principles have served me well. I suppose a near flooding of the surface with a QD would work in place of a WW, but considering the cost and labor differential, it isn't worth it to me.

Bill

 

[cardude2000]

QD’s clearly have high levels of lubrication. You can feel it with you fingers....That said, when used in a quantity that you’d use a WW it streaks and looks blotchy/hazy. And that’s the issue I have.

I guess I’m just trying to understand how people use QD’s (assuming money isn’t an issue) vs WW’s.

Buying a QD for JUST a drying aid seems silly. Especially since QD’s like reload are clearly made to mist an entire panel and add a little protection behind.

 

[Eldorado2k]

Daily ‘clean ups’...Best process & products?

Buying a QD for JUST a drying aid seems silly. Especially since QD’s like reload are clearly made to mist an entire panel and add a little protection behind.

I agree, it is silly...
Btw Reload isn’t a quik detailer. It’s a spray sealant or spray coating or whatever term people prefer... But what it’s not is a spray detailer because it has no cleaning ability therefore it’s not recommended for using the same way a quik detailer is used.

Contrary to popular belief, neither is Beadmaker.

 

[cardude2000]

Re: Daily ‘clean ups’...Best process & products?

I agree, it is silly...
Btw Reload isn’t a quik detailer. It’s a spray sealant or spray coating or whatever term people prefer... But what it’s not is a spray detailer because it has no cleaning ability therefore it’s not recommended for using the same way a quik detailer is used.

Contrary to popular belief, neither is Beadmaker.

True. But it’s used in the same way a QD would be used many here are saying. As a drying aid or to gloss/protect a vehicle right after it’s been cleaned.

That’s where I’m having trouble. I’m getting a haze when I use QD’s or ‘spray sealants’ right after washing.

I can’t imagine just dampening a MF with the detailer/protectant is enough? Maybe it is but I’ve always thought I should never touch a completely dry car...

 

[Desertnate]

Re: Daily ‘clean ups’...Best process & products?

That’s where I’m having trouble. I’m getting a haze when I use QD’s or ‘spray sealants’ right after washing.

I can’t imagine just dampening a MF with the detailer/protectant is enough? Maybe it is but I’ve always thought I should never touch a completely dry car...

What LSP are you using and what QD spray are you using? I don't think I saw it anywhere in this thread.

I've never used a QD spray which left any type haze. Many you can simply wipe on and walk away while some do require a light buffing to remove the haze just like a spray wax.

If you use a quality MF towel and dampen it with the product as a post-wash wipe down, you should be just fine. In fact, some QD's work better that way as going too heavy with the product could cause hazing. I've used QD's both ways.

 

[cardude2000]

Daily ‘clean ups’...Best process & products?

What LSP are you using and what QD spray are you using? I don't think I saw it anywhere in this thread.

I've never used a QD spray which left any type haze. Many you can simply wipe on and walk away while some do require a light buffing to remove the haze just like a spray wax.

If you use a quality MF towel and dampen it with the product as a post-wash wipe down, you should be just fine. In fact, some QD's work better that way as going too heavy with the product could cause hazing. I've used QD's both ways.

McGuire’s 156, EliXir, gtechniq QD and aquawax mostly.

I guess I am going too heavy and for between wash quick cleans I should use a ww

 

[Eldorado2k]

Re: Daily ‘clean ups’...Best process & products?

McGuire’s 156, EliXir and aquawax mostly.

I guess I am going too heavy and for between wash quick cleans I should use a ww

What kind of towels? How old are they?

 

[cardude2000]

Re: Daily ‘clean ups’...Best process & products?

What kind of towels? How old are they?

New this season.

Heavyweight Buff & Polish Towel 6 Pack

 

[cardude2000]

•IMO:
1.) The following Mike Phillips’ article clarifies
the role, that Spray Detailers (QD’s) play in
car-care, to the nth degree.

2.) It’s a must read.


Tips & Techniques for using a Spray Detailer to Remove Light Dust, Fingerprints and Smudges


Bob

Interesting. So this DOES say that you should mist the vehicle and dampen the MF. this is what I do yet I still get the haze. Weird.

 

[Klasse Act]

I have NEVER dampened a MF towel when doing a WW or using a "QD", either now or B.A.G. (Before Auto Geek) but ofcoarse the mf towel is dampened for the RW, well, if your using a mf towel that is.

Oh and BTW, speaking of towels, my Rag Company Eagle Edgeless' have arrived, orange is the color I selected. There will be a review of these against, well, let's just call the comparison Rag Company vs. Brand LM. The early line is this, both are 500 gsm but RC's cost $6.00 per towel, before the AG sale and Brand LM's are $4.40 a piece in the 5 count pack. Not sure when this going down because our weather doesn't look good for the weekend, big shocker, but its going to happen....stay "tuned"!

 

[FUNX650]

Tips & Techniques for using a Spray Detailer to Remove Light Dust, Fingerprints and Smudges

Interesting.
So this DOES say that you should
mist the vehicle and dampen the MF.

•What?
-Please take a moment and point out
where that is said in the MP-article
that I posted above; TIA.


•On the other hand:
-This is what I gleaned from this article:

How to use a spray detailer

• First mist the spray detailer over a small section of a panel.

• Next spread the spray detailer around gently with one side of a microfiber polishing cloth (folded 4-ways).

• Then quickly turn to the dry side and gently remove the spray detailer and buff the paint in this section to a dry, high shine. You are now finished with this section.

Before moving onto a new section, re-fold your microfiber polishing towel to expose a clean, dry side.

When starting a new section, remember to overlap a little into the previous section.

After you’ve used all 8 sides of a single microfiber polishing towel, switch to a fresh, clean microfiber polishing towel.



Two things you can do to help a spray detailer do its job better...

1. Use PLENTY of premium quality microfiber polishing towels
Don't try to wipe your entire car down using one or two towels if the goal is to maintain a flawless finish.

2. Use good technique
Always fold your microfiber polishing towels 4-ways, this will give you 8 wiping sides and this will help to spread out the pressure form your hand. Wipe carefully, not like a Wild Man

Bob

 

[cardude2000]

•What?
-Please take a moment and point out
where that is said in the MP-article
that I posted above; TIA.


•On the other hand:
-This is what I gleaned from this article:




Bob

I guess it doesn’t specify that but it does say there is a damp side and a dry side. Either way. Interesting that the spray detailer goes right onto the vehicle vs just on the MF. Maybe putting it a light mist of it onto the MF is where I’m going wrong.