Dash damaged during detail, need help ASAP please

Thanks everybody, especially Jomax. I called the company, and they don't have a local supplier. I went to carquest and got some generic grey spraypaint designed for vinyl, but of course the color didn't match up. The customer picked up his car this evening, and I made sure to show him all the really nice areas and stains that were removed, etc, so he would be really pleased, then I showed him the dash. I assured him that I can fix this as soon as the colorbond comes in the mail. Fortunately, he was very reasonable and not upset at all.

Now my question is, how do you spray paint inside the car? Do I need to pull the airbag out of the car? I can't imagine being able to do this inside the car and not get overspray on everything. I guess I could buy a bunch of plastic painting tarps from walmart and tape off/cover everything in the car?
 
You tape off mostly everything with plastic, don't really need to cover everything, just the surrounding area, if there's no air movement overspray is minor. make sure when you tape the area to make it larger around spot to blend it in. Make sense?
 
Now my question is, how do you spray paint inside the car? Do I need to pull the airbag out of the car? I can't imagine being able to do this inside the car and not get overspray on everything. I guess I could buy a bunch of plastic painting tarps from walmart and tape off/cover everything in the car?

That's what I did. I had to re-dye some plastic trim in a Toyota Corolla. I even had to replace some missing pieces. And those I did first to make sure the color was a close match. But the pieces that were too much trouble to remove inside the car I just masked and covered. Came out fine.
 
You tape off mostly everything with plastic, don't really need to cover everything, just the surrounding area, if there's no air movement overspray is minor. make sure when you tape the area to make it larger around spot to blend it in. Make sense?

Cool. How do you blend? I've never painted. Instead of blending, I could just tape around the whole airbag cover and paint the whole cover. Would that make blending with the dash uneccessary?
 
Cool. How do you blend? I've never painted. Instead of blending, I could just tape around the whole airbag cover and paint the whole cover. Would that make blending with the dash uneccessary?

David,

You took the words right out of my mouth..

Sometimes spraying the whole dash is easier than trying to blend an are especially if you're dealing with something old and faded. Many a time when I did autobody work if lets say I was working on a door and fender I'd paint the entire side to achieve a nice uniform color...

If it's not to difficult, you might want to pop off the entire dash pad and paint it separately...
 
David,

You took the words right out of my mouth..

Sometimes spraying the whole dash is easier than trying to blend an are especially if you're dealing with something old and faded. Many a time when I did autobody work if lets say I was working on a door and fender I'd paint the entire side to achieve a nice uniform color...

If it's not to difficult, you might want to pop off the entire dash pad and paint it separately...

Bobby makes a good point :)
 
I don't think what i say will help you but i have a 9 years old Sequioa. I was using Zep purple 10:1 ratio to clean the inside. Everything was find until i clean the steering wheel. The "plastic" suffice rub right off and revealed dark plastic underneath. It also felt sticky. At that point, i stopped and let it dry. A couple hours later, it became smooth to touch again. also the black plactic underneath is less noticeable once it dry.

happened to me to on my dad's 02 Sienna. the factory dye process must be a real POS because this stuff wipes off with just a towel and water (not joking). Some of the worst I have seen. It's the factory dye too because we had that car since new.
 
I'm with Bobby. If you just paint that cover, you;ll have a shiney new looking cover that won't match up with the rest of the interior. Then again, your doing more work but its up to you and how important it is to the customer.
 
Updated with solution

I was going to edit my first post, put this info in there, and put "UPDATED" in the title, so that anyone with the same problem can easily find the solution, but after a certain amount of time, you can't edit a post, so if a mod sees this, please add this post to my original post.

I checked out the colorbond website that Jomax listed. That company is "factory approved" by Ford, so if you've got a Ford, you can look up the exact paint color by the trim code of your vehicle. Unfortunately, at the time of this writing, you can't look up Toyota colors by trim code. You just have to look at your trim, then look at the computer screen and try to pick a color that matches. Seems to me that I would have to get incredibly lucky to match it up without having the actual product in front of me.

I went to a local paint supply store that supplies body shops. They had the same type of product- vinyl trim paint in a spray can- but manufactured by SEM. They had tons of different colors in stock.

I had removed the airbag cover and brought it with me. We picked out several different colors that looked close, then took them outside and
sprayed several different sheets of cardboard to find the perfect match.

I took it home, cleaned the cover, and sprayed it. When I reinstalled it, it didn't match up at all. I went back to the paint shop and tried another shade.

The second shade worked perfect. It is literally a 99% match. A professional painter would notice the slight difference. A professional detailer might notice. But the average man on the street will never notice. If I point out the difference you can look at it and see a slight variation, but not unless I point it out.

Important Points

If you don't prep the surface really well, the paint will start coming off in a relatively short amount of time. I cleaned with soap. Then I kind of gently roughed up the surface with a scouring pad to give the paint a little bit of a rough surface to adhere to. Cleaned with soap again. GENTLY cleaned with a 5 to 1 water to 91% IPA mix, then washed with Dawn again. You MUST get all the old dressing off.

If you don't have a lot of experience painting, you'll definitely want to take the piece out of the car.

The underlying color of the surface you're painting WILL affect the final color. This was my problem with the first attempt. It looked like a perfect match when applied on a white cardboard sheet, but when I put it on the darker colored plastic, it ended up too dark.

Spray from 10 inches away. It will seem like you're too close, but you're not. If you get too far away, the paint droplets don't atomize right. They gather together into bigger droplets and don't lay down properly and the finished product looks horrible.

MULTIPLE LIGHT COATS! If you put it down to heavy, it'll look splotchy and be impossible for an amateur (like me) to blend. Let each coat get dry (but not cured) before putting on another coat. Anywhere from 5-15 minutes between coats, depending on temp, humidity, and how thick you're laying it down. If it still looks shiny/wet wait a little longer before putting another coat down.

Once it's dry, let it cure as long as you can before reinstalling it. The last thing you want to do is to rub some of the paint off when reinstalling it.



I am a complete amateur when it comes to painting, but this is the process that worked for me.
 
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