Dat work time

tpr1634

tpr1634

New member
Joined
Apr 23, 2012
Messages
1,160
Reaction score
0
I have used wolfgang finishing glaze used it once , I have the compound and swirl remover. My question is on average, these being a dat how long of a work time or passes for these using either a PC or flex 3401 with either lake country ccs or hybrid pads. Any tips or tricks I just want to make sure I am properly using these products to their full potential. :buffing:
 
Its hard to say because so much involved is technique and how much polish applied. Obviously, less polish = less abrasives = faster breakdown. Too much polish may never break down and just gum up.

I usually do 4 -5 slow passes. I probably do passes slower than most ~ 2" a second.
 
I figure prime the pad then 3 or 4 pea size drops.
 
swanicyouth said:
Its hard to say because so much involved is technique and how much polish applied. Obviously, less polish = less abrasives = faster breakdown. Too much polish may never break down and just gum up.

I usually do 4 -5 slow passes. I probably do passes slower than most ~ 2" a second.
Click to expand...

I am even slower than you then:laughing:

I use a lot of Menzerna stuff, and for heavy polishing (FG400/PF2500) I will do 2 VERY slow passes (around 1-1.5"/second), then I blow out the pads with compressed air to remove the paint that has been abraded off the car, out of the pad.

Then I do another 2 slow passes and by then the polish has broken down sufficiently.

When doing light polishing (SF4000) I will generally make 3 really slow passes, blow out the pad, and do another 3 - SF4000 has a really long working time IME

But as already mentioned there are so many variables like the amount of polish you use, the ambient temps, the type of polishing (heavy cutting will IME cause the polish to dry out quicker than light polishing as more heat is being generated) etc
 
Here are my methods when working with Menzerna products, Hybrids pads, and the 3401.

I have this written into a word document and will be happy to share by email if anyone is interested.



My methods when using Menzerna products, Hybrid pads, driven by the Flex XC 3401 VRG
FG400 and cutting pad speed 3-4
S4000 and polishing pad speed 4-5

When starting with a fresh new pad regardless of color choice or Menzerna selection is to first prime the pad with one mist of a pad conditioner or equivalent and then 4-6 dime sized dots of product depending on the size of the pad and area to be worked.

With the pad primed and ready to work with I set the speed dial accordingly to my options above, gently pull the trigger enough to activate the machine (basically speed 1) and do one brisk full coverage section pass in the section that I am going to work to spread the product out with only the weight of the machine.

Once the product has been spread out I squeeze the trigger fully to operate the polisher at the selected speed on the dial and start my normal routine of compounding or polishing with moderate to heavy pressure depending on what’s needed.

I also like to work Menzerna products longer such as 6-8 passes instead of the normal 4-6. When I get to the last 2 passes I ease up and only use the weight of the machine to finish.

When I am finished with the section that was just worked there should only be a very thin and clear residue left to wipe up which is a breeze to remove.

After the section was compounded or polished my method to cleaning the pad “on the fly” is to brush the face of the pad with a pad brush or mf towel while the pad is at rest. I don’t hold the brush and spin the pad against it as I feel this accelerates the wear of the pad.

When I am ready for the next section to be polished I will simply add the dimed sized drops of product without the pad conditioner as the pad has been in use and is seasoned.

Doing it this way will get me through half of a hood, a fender, a door, or trunk lid depending on panel size. After I have completed polishing half of the hood or the fender with multiple section passes I will then clean my pad in a pad washer and spin them dry on my rotary and set it aside face down on a mf towel to dry and will grab a fresh dry pad and condition it for use for the next panel.

I rotate 2-3 pads this way of the same color per compounding or polishing step to allow the others to dry while each pad is in use. This way after each panel I always have a fresh clean pad to use.
 
I'd say you're safe at the 6-8 section pass time for the compounds and medium cut polishes and the 4-6 section pass time for the fine and ultra fine cut polishes.

I've never seen an "working time" related issue of swirls or haze with Menzerna products and you certainly don't see hundreds of threads about this issue.

Just sayin...

:xyxthumbs:
 
Thanks for the reply's just trying to get a feel before I start using the wolfgang products, can't wait for this winter to end.:buffing:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top