Difference Between Waterless Washing and Quick Detailing??

Marc08EX

Marc08EX

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Hi everyone,

What's the difference between waterless washing and quick detailing? It seems both of them use a spray and wipe type of product...
 
The waterless washing products have a lot more (double or triple) the polymers and other cleaning agents designed to "lift" the dirt off the surface. So the waterless is designed for slightly "dirtier" cars. They are still not a replacement for traditional washes, including rinseless washes like ONR
 
bodavenport said:
The waterless washing products have a lot more (double or triple) the polymers and other cleaning agents designed to "lift" the dirt off the surface. So the waterless is designed for slightly "dirtier" cars. They are still not a replacement for traditional washes, including rinseless washes like ONR
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I have to disagree. Waterless washing can replace traditional washing methods. Technology has come very far and it is possible to wash a very dirty car waterless.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO6PYq6exeQ]YouTube - Filthy black SUV cleaned with Aquanil-X waterless car wash!![/video]
 
Thanks for the info guys. So will this replace quick detailers? I don't see the point of quick detailers now that waterless washes are available. It seems like the waterless wash products are quik detailers on steroids right?
 
IMO quick detailers leave a better shine/gloss then waterless washes. I use both and when it's just dusty I use a QD, or while I'm drying I use a QD.
 
I have used Aquanil-x and could not get a streak free finish, I tried numerous times and watched Frank's videos many times thinking I was doing something wrong (which I probably was), I personally think that the ultima waterless is much better
 
From my article list...

The difference between a Normal Car Wash, a Waterless Car Wash, a Rinseless Car Wash and a Spray Detailer

There are 4 popular approaches to washing and cleaning cars, below are descriptions of the four different approaches followed with the products that can be used for the different approaches.


Normal Car Wash
A normal car wash is simply the more traditional method of dragging out the water hose, filling a bucket with water, adding the soap then spraying the car down with water, then washing the car and then going back to the water hose to rinse the suds off and then repeating this over the rest of the car before the section you just washed has a chance to dry possibly causing water spots. This system works well but it also uses a lot of water and in some areas it may not be allowed.


Waterless Car Wash
A waterless car wash is where you use a high lubricity pre-mixed spray detailer to heavily saturate a panel and then carefully wipe any dirt or road grime off to a dry shine. The key to working safely with a waterless car wash is to use plenty of clean, microfiber polishing towels and after using all 8 sides of a microfiber towel, quit using the microfiber towel and switch to a new, clean microfiber polishing towel so you don't simply transfer dirt removed from one panel to another panel.


Rinseless Car Wash
A rinseless car wash is kind of a cross between a normal car wash and a waterless car wash. Like a normal car wash, you’re still going to use water, but only a couple of gallons. Like a waterless wash, instead of rinsing your wash solution off, you’ll work panel by panel and wipe each panel to a dry shine using microfiber drying towels like the Water Guzzler. With a Rinseless Wash, you’ll use dramatically less water but still be flushing the panel with plenty of high lubricity wash solution to leave behind a scratch-free finish.


Spray Detailer
Spray Detailers are for removing, Light Dust, Fingerprints, Smudges and most can also be used as a clay lubricant. Light dust is a light accumulation of airborne dust and contaminants that have landed primarily on horizontal surfaces and have not in any way bonded to the paint.

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Autogeek's Selection of Car Washing and Cleaning Products


Normal Car Washes
Pinnacle Bodywork Shampoo 16 ounce
DP Auto Bath Shampoo 32 ounce
DP Xtreme Foam Formula Auto Shampoo
Wolfgang Auto Bathe
Pinnacle XMT Gel Shampoo & Conditioner
3M Car Wash Shampoo
Dodo Juice Sour Power Gloss Enhancing Shampoo
Dodo Juice Supernatural Shampoo
Duragloss Car Wash Concentrate
1Z Einszett Perls Shampoo Premium Car Wash
Step 3 Finish Kare 118 Super Concentrated Shampoo
Griot's Garage Car Wash
Liquid Glass Wash Concentrate
Meguiars Ultimate Wash & Wax
Mirror Glaze M6201 Carwash Shampoo & Conditioner
Meguiars Gold Class Shampoo & Conditioner
Meguiars NXT Generation Car Wash
Meguiar’s Shampoo Plus
Meguiars Hyper-Wash
Mothers California Gold Car Wash
Optimum Car Wash
P21S Bodywork Conditioning Shampoo
Poorboy's World Super Slick & Suds Concentrated Car Wash
Ultima Paint Guard Wash


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RTU = Ready To Use

Waterless Washes
Detailer’s Pride Waterless Auto Wash - RTU
Detailer’s Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss - 6-8 ounces per gallon
Poorboy's World Spray & Wipe Waterless Wash - RTU
Griot's Garage Waterless Spray-On Car Wash - RTU
Last Touch Spray Detailer - RTU
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine 8 ounces per gallon

Note: There is no official recommendation from Meguiar's to use Last Touch as a Waterless Car Wash but this is a high lubricity spray detailer that can be diluted 1:1 for a clay lube. For the opposite reason you can dilute it for a clay lube, (that is when used straight it's too slippery for a clay lube), it can be used as a waterless car wash as this product is sold in Australia as a waterless wash.




Rinseless Washes
Detailer’s Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss 1 ounce for 2 gallons of water
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine - 1 ounce for 2 gallons of water



Spray Detailers
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 16 ounces
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 64 ounces
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 1 gallon
Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 16 ounces
Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 64 ounces
Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 1 gallon
Detailer's Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss - 32 ounce
Detailer's Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss - 1 gallon
Detailer’s Pride Final Gloss™ Quick Detailer - 32 ounces
Detailer’s Pride Final Gloss™ Quick Detailer - 1 gallon
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Instant Detailer - 12 ounces
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Detail Spray - 64 ounces
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Detail Spray - 1 gallon
Dodo Juice Time To Dry Drying Detailer - 17 ounces
Dodo Juice Red Mist Tropical Protection Detailer - 17 ounces
Duragloss Fast Clean & Shine Detail Spray #921 - 22 ounces
Duragloss Marine & RV Detail Spray #521 - 22 ounces
Griot's Garage Speed Shine Detailer - 35 ounces
Griot's Garage Speed Shine Detailer - 1 gallon
Griot's Garage Waterless Spray-On Car Wash - 35 ounces
Griot's Garage Waterless Spray-On Car Wash - 1 gallon
Finish Kare 425 Extra Slick Final Body Shine 31 ounces
Finish Kare 425 Extra Slick Final Body Shine - 1 gallon
Finish Kare Anti Static Poly Wipe Finish Restorer Spray Detailer - 31 ounces
Finish Kare Anti Static Poly Wipe Finish Restorer Spray Detailer - 1 gallon
Liquid Glass Detail Spray - 16 ounces
Mothers California Gold Showtime Instant Detailer - 16 ounces
Meguiars Ultimate Quik Detailer
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #34 Final Inspection - 16 ounces
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #34 Final Inspection - 1 gallon
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #135 Synthetic Spray Detailer - 16 ounces
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #135 Synthetic Spray Detailer - 1 gallon
Meguiars NXT Generation Speed Detailer - 24 ounces
Meguiars Flagship Ultimate Boat Detailer - 24 Ounces
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #52 Quik Clean Mist & Wipe - 16 ounces
Meguiar's D15501 Last Touch Spray Detailer - 1 gallon
Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer - 17 ounces
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine - 32 ounces
Poorboy’s World Spray & Gloss - 16 ounces
Poorboy’s World Spray & Gloss - 32 ounces
Poorboy’s World Spray & Gloss - 1 gallon
Poorboy's World Spray & Wipe Waterless Wash - 16 ounces
Poorboy's World Waterless Wash - 32 ounces
Poorboy's World Waterless Wash - 1 gallon
S100 Special Surfaces Cleaner - 10 ounces
Ultima Detail Spray Plus - 22 ounces
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Instant Detailer


Note: While spray detailers are first and foremost positioned as products for removing light dust, if used wet or heavy and with good technique, that can substitute for a high lubricity waterless wash. Use your own judgment.


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Show Car Garage Video: How To Use A Rinseless Car Wash

Part 1 - How to use a Rinseless Car Wash[/CENTER]
[video=youtube_share;XvhyJix0IVs]- Part 1 - How to use a Rinseless Car Wash to wash your car[/video]


Part 2 - How to use a Rinseless Car Wash​
[video=youtube_share;VmXZG85dByk]- Part 2 - How to use a Rinseless Car Wash to wash your car[/video]



Reasons to use a Rinseless Wash
In a perfect world everyone would have access to free flowing water, warm temperatures, no restrictions on when and where they can wash their car etc.

The problem is we don't live in a perfect world and not everyone has access to free flowing water or has the ability to use free flowing water due to water restrictions.

Here's a list of some reasons for using a Rinseless Wash....

Areas with government enforced water restrictions
In today’s reality, there are many cities and even entire countries with Government Enforced Water Restrictions. In these places it’s against laws and/or regulations to wash your car with a free flowing source of water.

Geographical areas of drought
In some places there may be no official restrictions against water use but the geographical area itself is experiencing severe drought and self-compliance as well as common sense prevents people from using a free flowing source of water to wash their vehicles.

People who live in Apartments
In some areas if you live in an Apartment, a Condo or a Townhouse, there may be no place to wash your car with a free flowing source of clean water or their may be rules against it that you have agreed to comply with.

Washing in cold winter months
In cold weather, extreme low temperatures can make washing a car with a free flowing source of water dangerous and difficult at best.


Mobil Detailers
Rinseless Washing enables mobile detailers to get their customer’s car clean without having to depend upon a water source on location or the extra hassle of transporting hundreds of gallons of water in their Truck, Van or on a Trailer. Besides that some areas require mobile detailers to contain and capture their run-off water and this is an added expense, somewhat difficult as well as time consuming.


Anytime you’re traveling
If you doing any long distance traveling, Rinseless Washing enables you to wash your car while in route.



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Marc08EX said:
Thanks for the info guys. So will this replace quick detailers? I don't see the point of quick detailers now that waterless washes are available. It seems like the waterless wash products are quik detailers on steroids right?
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You are right IMO! I foolllow up WW with a Spray wax, usuallyy Pinnacle. Results in more gloss & better protection than a QD IMO!
 
I've sorta replaced quick detailers with waterless car wash and quik waxes/sealant sprays. I bought the gallon jug of DP Waterless to use as a QD on steroids to remove dirt, dust and day to day grime that attacks the paint between washes. I also use it after polishing steps or if I'm going to apply an LSP and the surface has sat long enough to have picked up some dust or dirt. I feel more comfortable that a waterless wash is better protecting and lubcricating the surface during dirt removal. I do suspect that they're harder on an LSP than say QD sprays.

I'm using spray wax or spray sealer (depending upon the car's LSP) after conventional washes when I don't need to re-wax just yet but want to boost shine and protection. For example: on my Blackfire Wet Diamond sealed cars I follow with BF Sealant spray and on the waxed cars something along the lines of Ultimate Quik Wax or Pinnacle Souveran spray wax.
 
I use Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer and it works wonders, even the black plastic looks shiny as if a coat of wax was applied. Now if Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer works and smells that good, I must try ONR!!!
 
jimmyjam said:
I use Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer and it works wonders, even the black plastic looks shiny as if a coat of wax was applied. Now if Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer works and smells that good, I must try ONR!!!
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Buy a gallon. You will love it!
 
TWO!!! no seriously I love ONR during winter months and for quick cleanups. Winter time I will take my truck through the touchless to get the "heavy" grime off and then use ONR after. Big fan, when I take my Mustang to a show I clean it up there using ONR.
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
RTU = Ready To Use

Waterless Washes
Detailer’s Pride Waterless Auto Wash - RTU
Detailer’s Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss - 6-8 ounces per gallon
Poorboy's World Spray & Wipe Waterless Wash - RTU
Griot's Garage Waterless Spray-On Car Wash - RTU
Last Touch Spray Detailer - RTU
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine 8 ounces per gallon

Note: There is no official recommendation from Meguiar's to use Last Touch as a Waterless Car Wash but this is a high lubricity spray detailer that can be diluted 1:1 for a clay lube. For the opposite reason you can dilute it for a clay lube, (that is when used straight it's too slippery for a clay lube), it can be used as a waterless car wash as this product is sold in Australia as a waterless wash.




Rinseless Washes
Detailer’s Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss 1 ounce for 2 gallons of water
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine - 1 ounce for 2 gallons of water



Spray Detailers
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 16 ounces
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 64 ounces
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 1 gallon
Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 16 ounces
Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 64 ounces
Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 1 gallon
Detailer's Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss - 32 ounce
Detailer's Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss - 1 gallon
Detailer’s Pride Final Gloss™ Quick Detailer - 32 ounces
Detailer’s Pride Final Gloss™ Quick Detailer - 1 gallon
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Instant Detailer - 12 ounces
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Detail Spray - 64 ounces
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Detail Spray - 1 gallon
Dodo Juice Time To Dry Drying Detailer - 17 ounces
Dodo Juice Red Mist Tropical Protection Detailer - 17 ounces
Duragloss Fast Clean & Shine Detail Spray #921 - 22 ounces
Duragloss Marine & RV Detail Spray #521 - 22 ounces
Griot's Garage Speed Shine Detailer - 35 ounces
Griot's Garage Speed Shine Detailer - 1 gallon
Griot's Garage Waterless Spray-On Car Wash - 35 ounces
Griot's Garage Waterless Spray-On Car Wash - 1 gallon
Finish Kare 425 Extra Slick Final Body Shine 31 ounces
Finish Kare 425 Extra Slick Final Body Shine - 1 gallon
Finish Kare Anti Static Poly Wipe Finish Restorer Spray Detailer - 31 ounces
Finish Kare Anti Static Poly Wipe Finish Restorer Spray Detailer - 1 gallon
Liquid Glass Detail Spray - 16 ounces
Mothers California Gold Showtime Instant Detailer - 16 ounces
Meguiars Ultimate Quik Detailer
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #34 Final Inspection - 16 ounces
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #34 Final Inspection - 1 gallon
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #135 Synthetic Spray Detailer - 16 ounces
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #135 Synthetic Spray Detailer - 1 gallon
Meguiars NXT Generation Speed Detailer - 24 ounces
Meguiars Flagship Ultimate Boat Detailer - 24 Ounces
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #52 Quik Clean Mist & Wipe - 16 ounces
Meguiar's D15501 Last Touch Spray Detailer - 1 gallon
Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer - 17 ounces
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine - 32 ounces
Poorboy’s World Spray & Gloss - 16 ounces
Poorboy’s World Spray & Gloss - 32 ounces
Poorboy’s World Spray & Gloss - 1 gallon
Poorboy's World Spray & Wipe Waterless Wash - 16 ounces
Poorboy's World Waterless Wash - 32 ounces
Poorboy's World Waterless Wash - 1 gallon
S100 Special Surfaces Cleaner - 10 ounces
Ultima Detail Spray Plus - 22 ounces
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Instant Detailer


Note: While spray detailers are first and foremost positioned as products for removing light dust, if used wet or heavy and with good technique, that can substitute for a high lubricity waterless wash. Use your own judgment.


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Just curious, why didn't Optimum Opti-Clean make it on this list? It's also a waterless wash product with even more lubricity than ONR....

Optimum Opti Clean Concentrate, Opticlean cleaner protectant, Optimum all purpose cleaner protectant
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
RTU = Ready To Use

Waterless Washes
Detailer’s Pride Waterless Auto Wash - RTU
Detailer’s Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss - 6-8 ounces per gallon
Poorboy's World Spray & Wipe Waterless Wash - RTU
Griot's Garage Waterless Spray-On Car Wash - RTU
Last Touch Spray Detailer - RTU
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine 8 ounces per gallon

Note: There is no official recommendation from Meguiar's to use Last Touch as a Waterless Car Wash but this is a high lubricity spray detailer that can be diluted 1:1 for a clay lube. For the opposite reason you can dilute it for a clay lube, (that is when used straight it's too slippery for a clay lube), it can be used as a waterless car wash as this product is sold in Australia as a waterless wash.




Rinseless Washes
Detailer’s Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss 1 ounce for 2 gallons of water
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine - 1 ounce for 2 gallons of water



Spray Detailers

Poorboy's World Spray & Wipe Waterless Wash - 16 ounces
Poorboy's World Waterless Wash - 32 ounces
Poorboy's World Waterless Wash - 1 gallon



Note: While spray detailers are first and foremost positioned as products for removing light dust, if used wet or heavy and with good technique, that can substitute for a high lubricity waterless wash. Use your own judgment.


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Wouldn't Poorboy's Spray and Wipe be considered a waterless wash? :)
 
Jimmyjam, you gotta try ONR. Really. It will change your whole routine up.

I know there are some people out there who don't like it and that's your thing but I've washed a lot of nasty cars with it. If it's real bad just be sure to do a pre-soak with a garden sprayer or something.
 
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