Do you wash cars differently?

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Do you wash cars differently?



By this I mean if you have two cars to wash,


First Car = Severely neglected finish
1960 Ford Ranchero with oxidized paint. This car is parked outside all the time.

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Second Car = Show Car Finish
1965 numbers matching Corvette, original owner. At the time this picture was taken, the car was just machine polished and waxed.
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Would you wash the above cars differently and if so, what is the big picture difference in how you would approach the washing process?

Note: You're going to buff-out the 1960 Ford Ranchero with the severely neglected finish.



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I would probably use different sponges or mitts. Something very soft on the recently polished and waxed Corvette. But then something that can get more grime off that old Ranchero. Two different wash sponges or mitts, one for the clean parts and one for the more dirty panels.

Also the dilution of car wash soap to water. Make sure when washing the Corvette you don't strip the wax recently put on. Maybe mix some APC in to wash the Ranchero to get the surface extra clean!

Then when drying make sure to use soft and plush microfiber towels to make sure you aren't scratching the finish on either vehicle.

But in the end I would take care in washing both vehicles no matter what the finish is.
 
they would both be washed the same!

all vehicals get treated equally by me as if they were 1,000,000 dollar machines!

thats just me!
 
:iagree: Regardless whether your next step is a 3 stage full recondition or just a cruise the wash is critical, no matter what the plan, skimping on the wash isn't cool.
 
Big picture difference? You don't want to thoroughly wet down the Corvette since it is an all original show car (unless of course we're talking about distilled/deionized/filtered water), whereas the Ranchero that lives outdoors can be wet down without worry.

The other difference is that the 'vette doesn't need decontamination, whereas the Ranchero does.
 
I think I'd use the two bucket method and a couple of sponges on the Ranchero, thinking that"gunk" might stick to it a little more. On the Corvette I'd use ONR, thinking that the car has been cared for and should have some protection.
 
Even though my washing methodology has been finely tuned over the years, especially with the advent of new products and accessories, I will freely admit I'd approach the 1960 Ford Ranchero differently.

My wash solution would be identical however I'm less concerned at this point with introducing swirls on a finish that's badly oxidized.

1960 Ford Ranchero would likely be washed with a brush designed for automotive washing and then a standard rinse. I would still use a leaf blower to dry the finish as not to impart additional water spotting or additional damage. The door jambs and hood grooves would drip dry.

1965 Corvette
would be washed by hand but rather than the brush I'l use a wool mitt, rinse thoroughly, then blow dry. Every nook and cranny would be dryed and doors, door jambs, and under hood area would be carefully inspected to ensure perfection.

Without going into allot of detail I think you have the general idea.....
 
yes I would wash them different..because you said you were going to buff out the ranchero...so..typical wash/dry for the vette...and I would use some type of APC or dawn or the like mixed with the wash soap to remove all wax residue and/or to get the surface as clean as possible before polishing.
 
It would be much easier to wash them differently as due care would be different. But, I would personally wash them identically, 2bm, etc. The reason is, I do not want to catch myself taking shortcuts in my procedures lest those shortcuts carry over to a client's car. It is my way of staying focused and on target at all times.
 
If the 1960 Ford Ranchero is going to be buffed out, a more aggressive wash medium may be better to clean it thoroughly. Micro-marring will be polished out anyway.
As bimmer325! posted, the soap solution may also be tweaked to become more potent against contamination. On the other hand, the 1965 Corvette would need the regular car soap (mild and would not strip the LSP).
If tar and asphalt is notoriously present, Kerosene may also be resorted to in preparation to claying.
 
I would use different wash chemicals and different pads/mits. Other than that, I would wash top down and concentrate on problem areas.
 
Nope, every car gets the same treatment. Broom across the paint

Yours,

$10 car wash guys
 
Nope, every car gets the same treatment. Broom across the paint

Yours,

$10 car wash guys

I like your style!

I've always used the two bucket method but now I use this:

- Foam Gun and let it dwell for a bit
- 2bm
- Panel at a time with constent rinsing from the foam gun before I go over with my wash media
- Panel at a time, means that I go back to the rinse bucket to rinse the wash media then dunk into the clean bucket of water and soap
- I air dry with my Metro blaster and pat down with a waffle weave towel

I really don't see how this can install issues but if I can improve this let me know (I've been told some people do almost a three/four bucket method to now a pressure washer/no touch method with air drying)
 
Both cars get ONR. Maybe a brand new mitt for the Corvette but that's about it.
 
Yes The ranchero would get a good scrubing to get ready for polishing. The corvette would get a waterless wash, because it probaly would not be in the elements to need nothing but light cleaning before it put back in storage. or at least that the way i treated mine for 5 years, it never got wet.
jonathan
 
Good answers from everyone...


Big picture difference? You don't want to thoroughly wet down the Corvette since it is an all original show car

Cars like this Corvette usually don't get washed as that would put water into places that cannot be dried and owners of cars like these are cautious about doing anything that could promote rust.

This Corvette was purchased new by the current owner is always garage kept, I'm pretty confident the only cleaning it needs and gets is with a spray detailer. I know the guy that buffed it out too...

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You can see that same soft blanket on the engine of this car...

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To protect the very shiny engine from getting any splatter dots on it...

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Yes The ranchero would get a good scrubing to get ready for polishing.

Correct.

The oxidation on the neglected finish was extreme and because it received a multi-step buff-out using a rotary buffer I washed it aggressively to ensure any and all dirt particles were removed from out of all the cracks and crevices so the air-current created by a spinning pad on a rotary buffer could not pull any particles into the machine compounding and polishing step potentially instilling swirls.


The point is, and I hope most of you will agree, that the way you take care of the finish on a car in which the paint is in Show Car Quality or Excellent Condition is very different than the way you wash a car that is neglected and about to undergo a major paint polishing session.


This topic is one covered in my first e-book as it states,


Washing Your Car
Believe it or not, washing is the most important step there is when it comes to machine polishing your car and the reason why is because you need the car to be surgically clean for two primary reasons,

1. To properly evaluate the surface
Whether you want to create a true show car finish or just wash and wax your car to maintain the factory finish, you need to evaluate the condition of the paint and in order to do this it needs to be thoroughly clean and dry. When evaluating the condition of the paint you’re going to both inspect it visually in good lighting and you’re going to feel the paint with your sense of touch using your clean hands. For both of these steps it’s vital that the paint is completely free of contaminants.

2. To ensure all loose dirt, road grim and any abrasive particulates are removed
Modern clear coats are incredibly stout when compared to the single stage paints used before the 1980's. Their chemical make-up enables them to last longer than traditional single stage paints and thus maintain the appearance value and monetary value of your vehicle. The problem with clear coat paints is they are scratch-sensitive, that means they are easily scratched, so to make sure you don't put swirls into the paint while you're machine buffing you start by making sure there's no dirt or any abrasives particles on the car. In this context, washing is the most important step.​

Later in this chapter it goes on...


Two approaches to washing your car
The idea behind washing your car is to remove any built-up dirt, road grime or other loose surface contaminants off the exterior finish, trim, windows and other components.

There are two very different approaches to washing your car and the condition of your car's paint is what determines how you approach the washing process.

  1. Aggressive Approach - Washing before a detailing session – Neglected Paint
  2. Careful Approach - Washing after a detailing session – Show Car Finish



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The only difference in washing technique for the two would be the soap used.

I wash all cars in the exact same manner from that point on.

- Two bucket method
- Natural sea sponge
- Each panel seperately
- Sheeted then blot dried
- blower for wheels/vents and other places water likes to hide.
 
Ive never worked on a single stage paint such as that rachero so I cant comment on going about reversing the neglect. But..

I would give that corvette the same level of care as I do my own vehicle. The wash technique would be slighly different due to the age of the car. I would make sure there is no standing water reaming to prevent rust. Ortherwise, I imagine everything else would be the same.

Now, for the neglected ranchero, unless the owner is having me polish it out, I would wash it the same, but I wouldnt let my WW or MF towels touch it. No point of trying to prevent marring using those towels when the paint is jacked anyways as it is. Beach towels it is!
 
Id wash the ford with griots paint prep to strip everything off the car to prepare for claying. I'd wash the chevy with a ph neutral gentle shampoo to protect the show car finish.
 
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