Does anyone pressure wash a car before using a rinseless wash method?

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I'm having a hard time selling Rinseless washes to customers. I can see why people are skepticle but between my two black cars and my Fiance's black G37. I have only had success with the Garry Dean bucket method. I've started a business offering only rinseless washes but nobody wants it. I'm considering just switching to a traditional method. I would really like to offer Traditional detailing using a pressure washer to free up loose debris and then using a rinseless method from there.
 
Thirdlife911 said:
I'm having a hard time selling Rinseless washes to customers. I can see why people are skepticle but between my two black cars and my Fiance's black G37. I have only had success with the Garry Dean bucket method. I've started a business offering only rinseless washes but nobody wants it. I'm considering just switching to a traditional method. I would really like to offer Traditional detailing using a pressure washer to free up loose debris and then using a rinseless method from there.
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I have the same problem. I am not able to get anyone to agree to a rinseless wash on their car. If you have access to a pressure washer, why not just wash the car with a traditional wash using a two bucket system and regular car soap?
 
I do in the winter time. Either coin op or touchless drive thru. I won't do a rinseless without something to remove the grit first. In the summer I only do rinseless washes if the car just has dust on it. If it has rained since the last wash, I do only a traditional 2BM.

I use GD method with either DGRW+AW (winter) or Blackfire RW (summer).
 
I wouldn't mind doing a traditional detail just don't have the coin at the moment. I would still prefer a quick pressure spray with water and then rinseless detail
 
Thirdlife911 said:
I wouldn't mind doing a traditional detail just don't have the coin at the moment. I would still prefer a quick pressure spray with water and then rinseless detail
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You are driving your clients cars to a car wash?
 
The advantage of Rinseless wash is been able to reduce the chances of getting water marks on your paint! Also you will be able to work by sections without creating a lake after you finished washing your car. According to some manufactures they say that you only use about 5 gallons of water or less when your washing a car but with a Rinseless wash you are been eco-friendly and as well making it seem like your car was washed in a traditional way but without creating a lake! I wash my SUV with Rinseless wash since I tend to wash it myself and as well here in California the water is super full of minerals! I still haven't bought a water softer system in order to reduce the chances of getting water marks! The results are great with Rinseless wash.
 
You are Marketing the product incorrectly.

What you are selling is an "EcoFriendy Car Wash"

Reinforce that you are able to produce the same results without wasting precious water.
 
As the expert you have to sell itusing that expertise. If they have issues with a rinseless wash how do they feel about you applying a DA, rotory or sand paper to the car during a detail/paint correction?
 
Thanks, I will definitely try the eco friendly approach. Kinda hard in Florida where everyone drives diesel trucks and live in a Swamp! lol
 
Why even give your customers the choice? You should be able to determine how to wash the cars safely without risking unnecessary damage to the paintwork.

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Obviously it depends on the condition of the paint. Rinseless is best suited for weekly maintenance. If the car hasn't been washed since who knows when, hit it with PW first if you have one. Ultimately you have to touch the paint at some point so make sure you play it smart and make the right call.
 
What I love the most about a rinse-wash is you can do it daily, doesn't take no time , you get to keep the car contaminant free.
Cuts down on claying and can follow up with Duragloss 845 Aquawax as needed which keeps your car protected.
I love my cars cleaned daily but without a RW it would be impossible being who has time to do a full wash every couple of days !

Kevin

cajundetailingbykevin.com
 
If you pressure wash it before a rinseless wash,why not just finish it up like normall. To me once it's been rinsed off scrubbing with a MIT is easier and faster. If you pre rinse, then you might get water spots on a hot day. I can wash a car "like normal" with about 5-8 gallons. Not including the water in the buckets.
"If it don't make dollars....."
 
rolop6 said:
If you pressure wash it before a rinseless wash,why not just finish it up like normall. To me once it's been rinsed off scrubbing with a MIT is easier and faster. If you pre rinse, then you might get water spots on a hot day. I can wash a car "like normal" with about 5-8 gallons. Not including the water in the buckets.
"If it don't make dollars....."
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What do you mean by finish it up like normal? I am also still figuring out the best way to do my mobile rinseless washes.
 
I use pressure washing followed by GDWM rinseless 90% of the time on my DD. For me its just faster because you don't have to keep rinsing the soap off or use 2 buckets.


If its hot or sunny, you really need either DI water or shelter to do this under though. I also feel rinseless wash may prolong your LSP a bit do to the polymers it leaves behind.
 
Gearhead said:
What do you mean by finish it up like normal? I am also still figuring out the best way to do my mobile rinseless washes.
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If your going through the trouble of hooking up your pressure washer or hose. Just finish up with a regular car wash. Why rinse it off and then used a rinseless wash. You already rinsed it, so I guess technically it's not a rinseless wash now anyway.
 
This is what I do on my DD since going and talking to Tuscarora Dave...
If the car is more dirty than rain or dust, I rinse it off with the Power Washer.
2. Soak a MF in ONR/Water and ring out. (sometimes in a bucket sometimes not)
3. Spray bottle with ONR/Water...spray panel then wipe, modified GDM
4. Wring towel out completely and re-wipe car (or wring out towel on each panel)
5. Dry with drying towel.

Takes about 20 minutes to do this method and keeps my car looking great!!! Lovin this method.
 
I hose the car off at the coin-op first, unless its a pretty light coating. I probably don't have to be as careful as all that outside of winter.

From a marketing standpoint, I see very little there as a selling point. Did you know that the grapes for many wines are organically grown? Its just not advertised because the customers assume organic wine tastes worse.

What's in it for the customer? From his standpoint, nothing. He doesn't care if you save water or not. To him you are presumably cutting corners. So, talk about something else. If you have to describe it, call it a low-friction polymer based, no, "nano-tecnology" based turkish bath for your car.
 
Thirdlife911 said:
I'm having a hard time selling Rinseless washes to customers. I can see why people are skepticle but between my two black cars and my Fiance's black G37. I have only had success with the Garry Dean bucket method. I've started a business offering only rinseless washes but nobody wants it. I'm considering just switching to a traditional method. I would really like to offer Traditional detailing using a pressure washer to free up loose debris and then using a rinseless method from there.
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I am gonna go out on a limb here but why mention it at all? Offer a wash and do a rinseless. If the results are good, clients are not gonna complain about your method.

I have used Rinseless several times in the past when doing a traditionnal wash would not be possible or practical and it came out very well. I use Optimum no rinse with carnaba and the results are always excellent.

As for using a power washer, if the car is really dirty I don't see why not, it's make the wash safer. But as others have said, if you do this you loose one of the big advantage of doing rinseless. If you decide to do this, I would also add a forced air seems drying to the process. So you are talking about maybe an extra 20 to 30 minutes to your cleaning time bringing it very close to a normal wash in terms of total time of work.
 
dcjredline said:
This is what I do on my DD since going and talking to Tuscarora Dave...
If the car is more dirty than rain or dust, I rinse it off with the Power Washer.
2. Soak a MF in ONR/Water and ring out. (sometimes in a bucket sometimes not)
3. Spray bottle with ONR/Water...spray panel then wipe, modified GDM
4. Wring towel out completely and re-wipe car (or wring out towel on each panel)
5. Dry with drying towel.

Takes about 20 minutes to do this method and keeps my car looking great!!! Lovin this method.
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If you are gonna use a waterless method, why not use a waterless product? Seems to me it's will be safer than using a rinseless this way.
 
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