Does Dawn original leave horrible residues? Or is this from drying too fast?

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Was stripping the odyssey today in anticipation for polish and CQuartz UK. It was high 70's, clear and dry, and I was out of the direct sun, shaded by some trees.

I kept getting this sort of residue on my panels.

I washed with Dawn dish soap for the purpose of stripping. I rinsed it very thoroughly, but couldn't stop such residue from coming back, making me think it was minerals, not soap.

In the end, I took a microfiber sponge to wet the surface, had my wife work right behind me drying the surfaces, and we got it to go away. But what a pain. How does one avoid them? My home water is filtered through a carbon block system, and Ive not typically had such issues. Thoughts??

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That looks exactly like what I have to deal with when it dries too fast using California tap water. The water here is horrible, twenty years ago washing and drying a car was a lot easier and didn't do this.
 
So its odd that I dont usually get this. So I have to wonder if it is because of the near-drought conditions, that the aquifer is getting higher TDS, which leaves this...
 
Looks like the soap dried or baked on he finish I encounter this every day window can give you promblem though I use 0000 fine steel wool on glass when people call me and say I saw ur truck how much to wash my car .they don't know what's involve so after u dry u have to go over it with spray wax too.i only have 4 customer washes I get 55.00 Tahoe 55.00 for a mountaineer then 45 for to Benz that's it I don't do any washes waste of time u make 0 profit I've been in the game for 25 years
 
This is why I am an Eco Friendly Waterless/Rinseless Detailer. With ONR you never have these problems. I would try Rinseless washing the car with ONR and maybe it will remove the residue
 
ski2 said:
Why would you bother trying to strip the LSP if you are going to polish as the polishing step will remove any remaining LSP??

In any case Dawn will not remove a good quality LSP-- it just covers up the beading characteristics with sufactants it leaves behind. Take a look at this thread---- http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/66896-lsp-stripping.html
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I agree with both points above, and I think that's just Dawn residue you're seeing. I also get that with some other soaps like Meg's Gold Class.
 
Food for thought...

How much Dawn did you use? Seems to me that you used a lot and other variables such as heat & humidity were factors.

Also, I am unsure of the state of your carbon block system - and they do great at filtering water for human consumption. That doesn't mean everything is filtered out. Calcium and many salts, for instance, is not filtered - let alone whether or not the carbon block needs to be recharged. Over time, if they need to be recharged, the system isn't really working for you.
 
mwoolfso said:
Food for thought...

How much Dawn did you use? Seems to me that you used a lot and other variables such as heat & humidity were factors.

Also, I am unsure of the state of your carbon block system - and they do great at filtering water for human consumption. That doesn't mean everything is filtered out. Calcium and many salts, for instance, is not filtered - let alone whether or not the carbon block needs to be recharged. Over time, if they need to be recharged, the system isn't really working for you.
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My thoughts also.

Not being an avid 'dawn' user...I will use it at times for removing road grease (where does that come from?) and the like. Maybe a healthy tablespoon in couple of gallons water works for me.

Bill
 
Onr takes to much time and a thousand towels later . Not a fan of that process unless it's a garage queen or a old vintage car that needs a correction but using no water . putting water on a classic car is not a good idea it may pose a threat of rust under all those strips of stainless and jambs.Time is money
 
BillE said:
I will use it at times for removing road grease (where does that come from?)
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Probably from when someone pops a boot on a suspension joint or CV joint, or heavy duty trucks that still have grease fittings and joints that seep.

GSKR said:
Onr takes to much time and a thousand towels later.
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There ARE other methods to using ONR/rinseless wash.
 
That looks like too much Dawn. I also found Dawn to give the plastic trim a dry chalky like appearance.

I agree with ski2. If you're going to polish the car anyway, that will remove the LSP far better than Dawn ever will without all the other headaches associated with using it. When I get ready for a full detail I just use my normal car wash soap, sometimes in a slightly higher concentration if the car is really dirty, and wash like normal.
 
Don't use it. Really no reason to use it, especially if your going to polish. The polish removes everything from the paint.
 
Real Riders said:
This is why I am an Eco Friendly Waterless/Rinseless Detailer. With ONR you never have these problems. I would try Rinseless washing the car with ONR and maybe it will remove the residue
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That's actually something I was hoping that someone would weigh in on. I've always figured a traditional wash is faster, but use of onr even as a drying agent might be useful...
 
ski2 said:
Why would you bother trying to strip the LSP if you are going to polish as the polishing step will remove any remaining LSP??

In any case Dawn will not remove a good quality LSP-- it just covers up the beading characteristics with sufactants it leaves behind. Take a look at this thread---- http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/66896-lsp-stripping.html
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Honestly, I don't have s good answer. That's why I came over here to learn.

I didn't want to aggressively polish since the van is new, and only had a marginal wax job done at the dealer. My going in thought was that I didn't know that polish/eraser would remove everything, so since i had to use some soap, why not use that?
 
Desertnate said:
That looks like too much Dawn. I also found Dawn to give the plastic trim a dry chalky like appearance.

I agree with ski2. If you're going to polish the car anyway, that will remove the LSP far better than Dawn ever will without all the other headaches associated with using it. When I get ready for a full detail I just use my normal car wash soap, sometimes in a slightly higher concentration if the car is really dirty, and wash like normal.
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Fair enough. Probably so. Didn't get very much foaming on the smallest (most dilute) ratio, so I moved up one.

Good input, greatly appreciated.
 
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