Done With Wax on Daily Driver

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While it's been fun and all, I'm giving up on wax/sealants for my DD. Why? Because I washed it today - and there wasn't a bead in sight. Water was flat. This was Collinite 915 and it was refreshed around 1.5-2 mos ago. Only beading was the roof which has OptiCoat. The OC seems to bead no matter what - if the car is filthy or clean. Pretty amazing stuff. So, I think I'll be OC'ing the rest of the vehicle once it gets a bit warmer.

Now the last 2 months have been horrible here. We have had snow, which leads to salt, on almost a daily basis. It has been hardcore snow and salt. But, all the protection was gone.

Car was filthy. Spent about 6 hrs washing inside & outside, re-applying 2 coats of 915 (for now), Tuff Shin'ing the tires, and Permanon'ing wheels and some trim.

While 915 looks great and is easy to apply (worked well in today's direct sun) - it just doesn't last through the salt and snow here. I don't think anything will, but OC - if next winter is as bad as this one was.

So, I'm wondering how everyone else's conventional LSPs held up this winter???
 
My single application of powerlock lasted 5 months. I wasn't able to rinse off the salt for a while (a couple times) this winter. Truck stays parked in the garage during the day (work nights)

On the Daylight sale I ordered PBL paint coating and I have a bottle of Poli-Coat sealant I haven't tried yet so we'll see how this goes.

I REALLY want to try Polish Angel Primer/Cosmic
 
Come to the side of coating my friend lol.

That is my reason for giving up waxes and sealant.
If i am going to invest 10+ hours to get my paint corrected, then sealant and wax it. I expect it to last for at least a year before another round of polishing.
Although most folks reapply wax and sealant every 6 months, u still have some light polishing to do. Not everyone want to polish their paint in such a short time again.

And that is the reason i opted for coatings.
 
PowerLock was under the 915 originally - that was gone as well.m guessing I applied it Nov/Dec. Maybe because car had salt all over it for a month plus, it killed the LSP. The good news IS, I did prove my theory.

My theory goes like this: don't touch the car until you can't touch it correctly.

I held off on washing until I was able to wash correctly. So, there wasn't a swirl in sight. Paint still looked good. No scratches or marring that you can get from washing via half way methods.

EvolutionDetail said:
Come to the side of coating my friend lol.

That is my reason for giving up waxes and sealant.
If i am going to invest 10+ hours to get my paint corrected, then sealant and wax it. I expect it to last for at least a year before another round of polishing.
Although most folks reapply wax and sealant every 6 months, u still have some light polishing to do. Not everyone want to polish their paint in such a short time again.

And that is the reason i opted for coatings.
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Amen to that. My garaged BMW will still be getting wax though. Just did BF Fire over Ice.
 
For some odd reason, i can't really tell the difference between a "Waxed" look....
MAYBE if i had like a FUN car for the weekend, I just might use wax and sealant again.
But i think the main reasons i went with coating was because the ease that i know it is THERE, unless polished off. And also because i don't see the difference after i wax the paint lol.

Well i am horrible with art and music.
Like any music go in my ear is good, regardless if there is a amp / bass / subwoofer. I just can't tell the difference.
Same thing applies with wax.
 
Permanon platinum lasted all winter and is still going strong. Adam's quick sealant always lasts me 6+ months.
 
Prima hydro seal/max held up great in this lousy PA winter. A quick application of prima hydro wax as you dry brings back the shine/protection.

I applied DP WHEEL AND GLASS COAT before winter. Cant say enough about these two. Wheels & glass still look good. WG trim sealant on all the trim before winter. Again, great product. Trim still looks good after a winter beating. And the xterra does 250 miles/week. Outside 24/7

In fact come spring i will most likley do...
1. prima amigo
2. prima hydro seal or max
3. hydro wax as you dry for maintaining
4. Would like to try the new MOTHERS TRIM CLEANER
5. WG trim sealant
6. DP wheel coat
7. DP glass coat

PA winters just plain suck! But i felt prima helped save the finish.
 
Almost forgot, DLux held up. Also, Pinnacle Glass Sealant held up awesome as well. LSP - not so much.
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1DVWdksip8]SON1C Wax Proto Wax A12 Home Brew Carnauba Wax - Water Test - Hydrophobic - Hydrophilic - YouTube[/video]
SON1C Wax ProtoWax A12 is still holding up strong ~2 months later :D going to strip and wax it again soon

Sorry to hear you're giving up on sealants and waxes. Every product has it's place and if you are looking for maximum durability naturally you'll be turning towards advanced synthetic paste waxes ex. snh, sealants, or the extreme and very favorable for good reason coatings

I find coatings boring personally but that's just my opinion and I might be bias ;) (for personal use)
 
I topped with Blackice in October, still beading strong through all the snow and salt. Spring will be cquk topped with reload and blackice
 
You jus must have better waxes than me, or my weather or what I drive through is worse than yours. Dunno.
 
Just because the paint is no longer beading, doesn't necessarily mean your wax has gone. :)

Conversley, I've seen paint bead with no wax / sealant on it.
 
davey g-force said:
Just because the paint is no longer beading, doesn't necessarily mean your wax has gone. :)
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After you wash the car and rinse it and the OptiCoat on the roof beads like crazy, and the rest of the car is flat - it's dead. Wax: RIP.

Please don't tell me there was some soap film, because there was no soap film on the OC, and I've used Ultima Paint Guard Wash many times before without such a "soap film".

davey g-force said:
Conversley, I've seen paint bead with no wax / sealant on it.
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Yes I've seen that as well. Just not a believer in vice-versa.
 
swanicyouth said:
PowerLock was under the 915 originally - that was gone as well.m guessing I applied it Nov/Dec. Maybe because car had salt all over it for a month plus, it killed the LSP. The good news IS, I did prove my theory.

My theory goes like this: don't touch the car until you can't touch it correctly.

I held off on washing until I was able to wash correctly. So, there wasn't a swirl in sight. Paint still looked good. No scratches or marring that you can get from washing via half way methods.



Amen to that. My garaged BMW will still be getting wax though. Just did BF Fire over Ice.
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This.

I know it sounds horrible, but I dont wash "my baby" during the winter. No matter how dirty it gets, I leave it. It has OptiCoat on it, I know its still there (everytime I wash it I see the water almost refusing to stay on the paint).

If I went out there on a 30 degree day and tried to wash the car I just know I would be in at least a little of a rush because of the cold + water. Id rather take the time to do a thorough wash when the weather is good enough for me to concentrate on it.

Granted, when your car dealer doesnt listen and washes the car FOR you, well thats another story.
 
What I do in my DD is to apply DP Poli-coat paint sealant, then apply Collinite 845. Works good IMHO. :) cleaning up is a breeze and beading is still good after ~2 months.
 
An interesting question though: Could we just dispense with this wax/ selant stuff and get by with a good wash and spray wax? If we wash our cars every week or two anyway, wouldn't that be enough?
 
I had to give up on my wax journey after I coated my car's paint. However, IMO it was completely worth it. Who knows how long it will last but as for now it is still sheeting like day one.

I reassigned Meg's Ultimate Wax to my Wheels and I just applied Collinite 476s to my wheels. They look great and I hope 476s holds up better than Meg's UW

I think that's why I started my tire dressing journey. If Ultima holds up as advertised then I pick that one over:

Meg's Detailer Tire and Trim
CarPro PERL
Optimum Opti Bond
Chemical Guys VRP

I do want to try the TuffShine however.

I say you

polish your paint
Jewel it
strip it
then coat it

then if you still get the urge to wax then just buy the spray sealants :D
 
we had one of our worst winters in 50 years here in Wisconsin . the amount of snow - and hey hey along with that the amount of salt used too , and the bitter amount of days below zero . just a nasty winter . I got 2 new vehicles last year . 1 got oc2.0 and the other dp paint coating . I got to say did not get a whole lot of bucket washes in - mostly just a pressure wash and rinse . both coating are still kicking and beading well .
 
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