Duragloss Aquawax 951

[silvermesa]

Getting ready to apply Duragloss for the first time. Will use 601/501 1:4 for paint cleansing and then will top with Duragloss 105 or 111 and will include the 601 for bonding.

I have a white vehicle and have been waffling back and forth on using 105 or 111 and was wondering what the topper or drying aide being Duragloss Aquawax would most look like?

Was thinking that if Aqua wax favored more the look of 105 there would be no reason to put on 111 or vise versa.

Your imput is appreciated!

 

[Dogfather]

Not sure I understand your question but I top 501 with 111 on my satin white pearl Subaru. I usually maintain with a rinseless wash and give each panel a UWW+ presoak, wash, then a spritz of AW before I dry. I use 111 rather than 105 since 105 is more or less an AIO so I feel it would be redundant. Also, on white I prefer a more sterile sealant look as opposed to the warmer wax-like look(so I've read) of 105.

 

[silvermesa]

Thank you for your reply.

To explain a bit further, I generally will use a product like Duragloss 951 to top off or give that freshly waxed look about every other week after a wash.

My thought was that if 951 had a bit more of the carnuba look to it like 105 is reported to have, that I should probably use 105 instead of 111. 111 is reported to have the sealant type look, it would cancel it out to top with a topper that looks more like carnuba. Being that the look of the vehicle will be most affected by the last product put on. I believe I read that somewhere on here?

That is why I was hoping to find out which product either 105 or 111 that duragloss 951 most looks like.

 

[Dogfather]

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe AW is a spray sealant, despite its name, and since 111 Clear Coat Polish is pure sealant, despite its name, they would compliment each other quite nicely.

 

[KillaCam]

Do you really think you can tell a difference between 105 and 111? I highly doubt it. Both will work good with aquawax. I like 105 and its super durable. Either choice would be a good one

 

[akj]

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe AW is a spray sealant, despite its name, and since 111 Clear Coat Polish is pure sealant, despite its name, they would compliment each other quite nicely.

I'm sorry I'm still learning but I have some 111 and it looks great on black but what do u mean by sealant look? I know 111 is a sealant (sort of) but what is the difference from a sealant look and a wax look?
And me doing a black truck tomorrow I was planing on using this but after learning Its a sealant I want to top it with wax. Would just a regular carnuba be OK? Like megs carnuba? I just want them to look nice together on black..

(Dont mean to hijack your thread)

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[Dogfather]

Do you really think you can tell a difference between 105 and 111? I highly doubt it. Both will work good with aquawax. I like 105 and its super durable. Either choice would be a good one

I agree, I'm sure AW would look just fine on either. DG describes 105 as a one-step. Like the OP I use 501 first. I just prefer not to use anything with any cleaners or polishes on top of an AIO.
I'm sure many have topped 501 with 101 or 105 and are very happy with the results. Just as a matter of preference I've always considered products like 111, OS, AW, OCW, 845, etc. to be more appropriate toppers. Then again its hard to argue with those who feel topping an AIO with anything defeats the purpose. Again, just a matter of personal preference.

 

[silverfox]

I have to say after trying numerous products over the years the eye opener for me occurred yesterday when I physically touched my paint for the first time since I winterized it last November.

By that I mean that I only used the local touchless car wash to wash my car during the winter months. I did not physically touch my car in all that time. Its been a long cold winter.

What opened my eyes? After going through the touchless car wash one last time (warm weather finally returned) I went to apply a waterless wash product with a MF towel. This is literally the first time since last November I touched my car with a towel.

To my surprise my car's paint was like glass. It was as if I had hand washed and dried it every week during the entire winter.

What do I attribute to this discovery? I applied Duragloss 601/501 to my car for the first time last November.agsin, I never touched the paint during the entire winter. No detail sprays or spray waxes. Nothing. Just ran it through the local touchless car wash every two weeks.

Bottom line I'm sold on that combo. Nothing I've ever tried before had ever given me such peace if mind and performance. And the look...awesome.

Guys... Run, don't walk and try this amazing Duragloss combo. It's truly amazing.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

I know 111 is a sealant (sort of) I was planning on using this but after learning it's a sealant I want to top it with wax. Would just a regular carnauba be OK? Like megs carnauba?)

It's not "sort of" a sealant, it IS a sealant. Sure you can top it with a Meg's Carnauba if it's #26, the others have some cleaners in them that may interfere with your topping/layering intent.

I just prefer not to use anything with any cleaners or polishes on top of an AIO. Just as a matter of preference I've always considered products like 111, OS, AW, OCW, 845, etc. to be more appropriate toppers. Then again its hard to argue with those who feel topping an AIO with anything defeats the purpose. Again, just a matter of personal preference.

I don't know what you're talking about; I think every DG LSP says that it cleans. You imply that 111 is a "more appropriate topper" but I'm reading the 111 box right now and one side says "Cleans Shines And Protects In One Easy Application" while the blurb on the back says "This non-abrasive formula removes fines scratches, tree sap, bug and tar without removing the protective clear coat". I'm pretty sure if it removes fine scratches it's going to remove whatever LSP you are trying to top with it.

I don't blame you though, the product descriptions are very confusing and everyone who calls DG to try and sort it out comes back with a different answer.

To my surprise my car's paint was like glass. It was as if I had hand washed and dried it every week during the entire winter.

You know what I think that tells us? Not that DG is the be-all, end-all product, but that touching causes a lot of LSP "wear".

 

[silverfox]

Tis true that any touching causes LSP wear, but going through a touchless carwash during winter is nothing new for me. My point is that this DG combo has no problem staying on the paint considering the harsh soaps they use at touchless car washes that in most cases can strip an LSP after repeated use...not to mention being a daily driver through salt, spring runoff mud, etc.

Its a winning combination.

GO SYRACUSE........!!!!!!!!!...

 

[Setec Astronomy]

My point is that this DG combo has no problem staying on the paint considering the harsh soaps they use at touchless car washes that in most cases can strip an LSP after repeated use...not to mention being a daily driver through salt, spring runoff mud, etc.

You know what that tells me? That DG is good stuff. I find Zaino to be very durable, too...hmm...

 

[Dogfather]

It's not "sort of" a sealant, it IS a sealant. Sure you can top it with a Meg's Carnauba if it's #26, the others have some cleaners in them that may interfere with your topping/layering intent.



I don't know what you're talking about; I think every DG LSP says that it cleans. You imply that 111 is a "more appropriate topper" but I'm reading the 111 box right now and one side says "Cleans Shines And Protects In One Easy Application" while the blurb on the back says "This non-abrasive formula removes fines scratches, tree sap, bug and tar without removing the protective clear coat". I'm pretty sure if it removes fine scratches it's going to remove whatever LSP you are trying to top with it.

I don't blame you though, the product descriptions are very confusing and everyone who calls DG to try and sort it out comes back with a different answer.



You know what I think that tells us? Not that DG is the be-all, end-all product, but that touching causes a lot of LSP "wear".

Thanks for not blaming me. It's true, lots of different answers from DG. Back on 9-18-11 you posted, "they all say they "clean" except the 111". It may not be consensus, but I'm sticking with the opinion that 111 has no cleaners or abrasives, for now at least. As for your light hearted inference that DG and Zaino are the same, I'm not so sure. It may be my imagination but ever since I switched from Z-AIO/Z-2Pro to DG 501/111, I feel one sock remains unknocked off.
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[Setec Astronomy]

Thanks for not blaming me. It's true, lots of different answers from DG. Back on 9-18-11 you posted, "they all say they "clean" except the 111". It may not be consensus, but I'm sticking with the opinion that 111 has no cleaners or abrasives, for now at least. As for your light hearted inference that DG and Zaino are the same, I'm not so sure. It may be my imagination but ever since I switched from Z-AIO/Z-2Pro to DG 501/111, I feel one sock remains unknocked off.
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I said that? I must have been reading the website description (here or at DG); this morning I was reading the box. I also am never able to get the same beading from DG that I get from Zaino, so I don't consider them "the same" but there are too many coincidences for them not to be related somehow.

 

[yakky]

I don't know what you're talking about; I think every DG LSP says that it cleans. You imply that 111 is a "more appropriate topper" but I'm reading the 111 box right now and one side says "Cleans Shines And Protects In One Easy Application" while the blurb on the back says "This non-abrasive formula removes fines scratches, tree sap, bug and tar without removing the protective clear coat". I'm pretty sure if it removes fine scratches it's going to remove whatever LSP you are trying to top with it.

I don't blame you though, the product descriptions are very confusing and everyone who calls DG to try and sort it out comes back with a different answer.

I've played around with the various sealants they offer quite a bit. DG111 indeed is the only one that really doesn't have much if any cleaning action. The only cleaning action you get out of it is from the solvents. DG105 on the other hand is an ok cleaner.

While DG105 looks like the modern version Z2, deep and glossy, DG111 appears to be the original formula for Z2, it has that super plasticy look which I really love on silver.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

While DG105 looks like the modern version Z2, deep and glossy, DG111 appears to be the original formula for Z2, it has that super plasticy look which I really love on silver.

I dunno, maybe I need to play around more with them, but I never seem to get the same beading or longevity out of DG that I can get out of ZFX'd Zaino, even mixing 601 into the DG.

 

[Klasse Act]

I would apply #111 over the top of the #501/601 combo and apply the AW over the top as an LSP. Your going to love AW and using it after every wash will keep the car glowing, its so easy to use and don't forget to use it on your glass and wheels, works great there too!

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[Dogfather]

I would apply #111 over the top of the #501/601 combo and apply the AW over the top as an LSP. Your going to love AW and using it after every wash will keep the car glowing, its so easy to use and don't forget to use it on your glass and wheels, works great there too!

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:iagree:

 

[yakky]

I dunno, maybe I need to play around more with them, but I never seem to get the same beading or longevity out of DG that I can get out of ZFX'd Zaino, even mixing 601 into the DG.

I agree, you won't get the same life as the newer Zaino formulations. But I think DG111 has the same durability/look/feel as the original Z2 from the late 90's to early 2000's. When Z2 went pro, it changed quite a bit.

 

[Klasse Act]

I did like Z-5 pro, a lot but for me its DG from here on out!

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[silvermesa]

That is why I was hoping to find out which product either 105 or 111 that duragloss 951 most looks like.

I did some experimentation. I first used Duragloss 601/501 in 1:4 ratio to clean the paint. Then I applied Duragloss 601/105 in 1:4 ratio to rear door and duragloss 601/111 in 1:4 ratio on all other panels. Then after 1 week, I gave the vehicle a wash with Optimum Car Wash and topped with Duragloss 951.

I can say that Duragloss 951 blends right in with either Duragloss 105 or 111 and there is no visual difference. Both 105 and 111 look virtually identicle on my vehicle and 951 does not appear to change the look immediately after applying. The next day it may have a slight glossier appearance depending on lighting.

In general, the use Duragloss 951 with 105 or 111 should help aide in protection.