Duragloss users, need help
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How long do you wait before applying the 105/601?
richy
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The use of 601 makes the corresponding product, whether it's 501 or 105 or 111, flash cure. As I joked in another thread, this does not mean that Philbert (aka Flash) comes down and blows on your finish to make it cure quickly. NO, what it means that you can top it immediately. I go around the car first applying and removing the 501/601 combo and then you can do the same with the 105/601 right away.
Can the 105/601 mixture be layered immediately? Sealants can generally be layered, right? Anyway, thanks. This mixing technique made me buy the "DG Trio" or "DG Love Triangle".
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Absolutely, yes. I'm sorry I didn't make myself more clear on that. This started from me wanting to save time on doing massive sized funeral coaches.Can the 105/601 mixture be layered immediately? Sealants can generally be layered, right? Anyway, thanks. This mixing technique made me buy the "DG Trio" or "DG Love Triangle".
Can the 105/601 mixture be layered immediately? Sealants can generally be layered, right? Anyway, thanks. This mixing technique made me buy the "DG Trio" or "DG Love Triangle".
The DG 601 flash cures whatever product you use with it, 105/111/501, so yes you can layer it immediately. Traditionally you way 12-24 hours before layering but with advancements like DG Polish Bonding Agent, Polycharger, etc., those cure times have been reduced. I'm different because I wait 2 hours before layering Duragloss products. No real reason, it's just what I do
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It doesn't surprise me that this happened on a Honda. I've had a few Hondas, especially my old S2000, completely hate certain products. I think the paint is too soft or something, but whenever I applied Duragloss sealants, Collinite pastes (845 liquid was fine), and certain other products, the residue would be darn near impossible to remove. I remember a few occasions where I had to go over a car using Meguiar's Body Solvent just to get the haze off.
Try it on a different car and you'll likely see that it goes on/off with ease. It's certainly a strange thing, but it sounds like your experiences matches mine so I thought it'd be worth mentioning.
Try it on a different car and you'll likely see that it goes on/off with ease. It's certainly a strange thing, but it sounds like your experiences matches mine so I thought it'd be worth mentioning.
Thanks richy and rwright. For persons with no covered garage, it sucks when it rains while the LSP is curing.It compromises the durability of an otherwise durable wax or sealant. After reapplication, these persons sometimes resort to prayers that it will not rain for the next 24 hours. This flash curing is indeed a good news because I am one of them.
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I detailed the wife's company car today, 2005 Impala, refrigerator white. The car hasn't been waxed in about 2 years, and is only washed at drive thru car washes. I washed with Gold Class, clayed with Meguiars Professional clay-mild, with Quik Detailer as lube. Mixed 4 parts DG 501 with 1 part DG 601, applied panel by panel with G110 V2, speed 4, white 5.5" CCS pad. Buffed off after each panel. The mixture certainly pulled a ton of dirt from the paint as evidenced by the now dark gray face of the pad. Next came 4 parts DG 105 mixed with 1 part DG 601, applied with dark gray 5.5" CCS pad at speed 3. Again, went panel by panel, and buffed off same. Finished up with Collinite 476 on 4" CCS pad, speed 2.5. Applied to entire car and buffed off. The car now looks pretty good, certainly shiny and well protected.
With that said, I was not blown away by the DG products. The did perform well, but in all honesty, I prefer Meguiars #66, or ColorX to DG501. Especially as no need to mix, and put on and buff off panel by panel. They are much faster, give as good as shine, clean as well, and can even remove minor defects. They also fill much better. I realize the DG products will out last the Meguiars cleaner waxes, and probably outlast Meguiars Ultimate wax, but when finishing with Collinite, it doesn't really matter. I would also reach for my Klasse AIO before 501.
My thoughts, DG good products, but so many good products out there that I think are easier to use. If anyone is interested in 95% full FREE DG 105, 601 and 501, PM me with your address, and I will ship them to you.
With that said, I was not blown away by the DG products. The did perform well, but in all honesty, I prefer Meguiars #66, or ColorX to DG501. Especially as no need to mix, and put on and buff off panel by panel. They are much faster, give as good as shine, clean as well, and can even remove minor defects. They also fill much better. I realize the DG products will out last the Meguiars cleaner waxes, and probably outlast Meguiars Ultimate wax, but when finishing with Collinite, it doesn't really matter. I would also reach for my Klasse AIO before 501.
My thoughts, DG good products, but so many good products out there that I think are easier to use. If anyone is interested in 95% full FREE DG 105, 601 and 501, PM me with your address, and I will ship them to you.
Couple things, DG 501 contains zero abrasives so don't expect correction, the mixing can be annoying but it cuts out the long wait for cure time, not sure why you were going panel by panel so I can see why that was annoying, and with Duragloss products the next day is when you notice the slickness but 476 may affect that. The big deal with Duragloss is the durability. But if you're less than impressed I can appreciate your honesty, I wouldn't count them out just yet. If you're serious about letting go of the products shoot me a pm with prices and I'll take them off your hands.
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By the way, just to clarify, DG products are good products. We truly are lucky to live in an age where so many good products exist. 10 years ago, good luck trying to find much in the way of quality car care products. I do believe for personal use, DG is just fine. In an environment where speed is part of the equation, I think there are some better choices. If it is my personal car, or a car I own, and I want the very best protection, DG is high on my list. In a pay for detail environment, they would not be my first choice.
It's not really hype, it's a way to cut down time and number of steps. You can still apply 601 to the paint, then top with 105/111/501 then remove. If you don't feel like using the PBA then apply the product to the paint, wait 12 hours or so then top like you stated. But if you have 1 or 2 cars to do in 1 day then you can't wait 12 hours, so just mix up the products and they flash cure and are ready to be topped if you desire. It's not for everyone.
Based off of my conversation with Jerry Bailey it has no cutting ability. It does have strong chemical cleaners which cut through oxidation fast. I will call him again on Monday to double check on the cutting ability. Now DG 671 Swirl Mark Remover does have abrasives in it and according to the label contains some protective properties, which in my mind would make it an AIO. The front label reads:
• Removes swirl marks and fine scratches
• Clear coat safe
• Ultra high gloss
• Durable protection
Back label:
Duragloss SMR is formulated to remove swirl marks and fine scratches from all types of surfaces. Safe for clear coated paint. Duragloss SMR gives an ultra-high gloss and durable protection with one application.
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