dust repellant LSP

Wheelzntoys said:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...tricity-dust-attraction-your-car-s-paint.html
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Spray Detailers to the resuce...
Spray Detailers are mostly water plus ingredients that provide lubrication, gloss, slickness, shine and in some cases, protection.


So while you and I would never wipe our car down with a water soaked wet rag, we will gently and carefully wipe our car's finish down with a quality spray detailer and this will help to remove static electricity as well as make the paint look great!"


^^^ Definitive.

I've also noticed a dedicate QD (like Last Touch) seems to do an even better job fending off dust than a QD solution from RL/WL.

Living about a hundred yard away from one of the busiest Bay Area freeways, I would need to clean the vehicle on the second evening like clockwork. With D155, I could stretch it out to every 4th/5th day. No placebo effect. The difference is quite pronounce.

I'm going to try FK425 next and see how well it stacks up against LT.
 
Doobis said:
You can buy into wolfs all you want. But I am not going to and be forced to change my wash from ultima and duragloss for them trying to force you to use their shampoo to spend more money on the product line for marketing. Do you use hard body? I have first hand experience on its durability and its hype over adding hardness and my testing showed zero extra protection from scratches with different materials.
2.5 months

Stuff was a true let down for me.
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You have found the weakness. Whilst 'nanobridges' are nonsense marketing inventions which mean nothing to a scientific mind, the necessity of using the appropriate maintenance products is actually fact here. I say appropriate because you do not need to use Wolfs products, you simply need to use products which are intended to provide their own protection. I would tend to question if this means that the original coating is doing the work or whether it is all the top up protection. I quite agree with you though and I do not approve of products which are just so fussy. However, if you can get yourself a fanatical following which does not generally care... then who am I to criticise!
 
thanks to all. It's funny because I have both fk425 and wolfgang spritz sealant, they just got moved to the back of the cabinet because of the new stuff i keep buying. Well they're out in front now again....until more new stuff arrives

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Doobis said:
?? Let it go what. Sit outside yea cause the car sits outside 24/7. It had plenty of washes in between
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All I'm saying is that if my paint looked like that at 4.5 months, I would have done something about it a long time ago. Even at the 2.5 month mark, it didn't look like it would last much longer.
 
Couple of things that have worked for me is, one like Nick said is the wolfgang spritz, and also Blackfire Poly Spray.

I know after BFWD my car becomes a magnet for dust. After a couple of days I apply BFCS and maintain with the poly spray and waterless or rinseless washes.
 
This thread has made me add WGDG Spritz Sealant to my next order.

Seems like V& may provide better looks, but WG better durability and cheaper?
 
Rsurfer said:
All I'm saying is that if my paint looked like that at 4.5 months, I would have done something about it a long time ago. Even at the 2.5 month mark, it didn't look like it would last much longer.
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:iagree: I crave the look and beading properties of fresh wax, that's why durability is not my main concern when choosing a LSP.
 
Mazda.Mark said:
This thread has made me add WGDG Spritz Sealant to my next order.

Seems like V& may provide better looks, but WG better durability and cheaper?
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As for looks and durability I cannot tell a differ between v7 or WG. But I do prefer WG because it smells nicer :)
 
Doobis said:
I found hard body to be some of the worst stuff I ever used. It lasted about 2 months for me on my wife's car before beading was gone and car never released dirt well at all. It was prepped properly and had 2 coats on her car. After 4 months it was 100% gone. Water just sat on car and didn't not run off
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while i dont doubt your claims, I have had a different experience.

I think more light should be put on the application demands from these companys. A lot of these nano sealants really need warm temps for proper application. anytime I apply a product like this I heat the garage up as warm as possible.

I think manufacturers believe they will scare away a wide audience of buyers by putting demands for application on the bottle.

Everyone saw the uproar EXO made when they demanded certain temp's. And I would imagine a lot of manufacturers are now weary to require the same.

Wolfs body wrap, hard body and the glass coating all have given me a 6 months of notiecable beading and protection (hard body only has 3 months on one of the cars in y driveway actually as thats when i got it). and I dont use there shampoo. I just use something with no gloss enhancers.

I have a feeling that you may have applied the product in a not so ideal environment. please dont be offended by that, i'm not saying you dont know what your doing. i'm actually stating that a lot of products like this are finicky and the manufacturers are not being upfront about ideal scenarios on when to apply for fear they will lose some of the market share (ie: cold/damp UK environment).
 
Do you all think using a spray sealant after every wash is practical? Or using a spray wax after every wash and mix in the spray sealant periodically is a better plan?
 
swanicyouth said:
Maybe they should call Wolf's No-Body. I think there is little difference, especially after the first wash, between LSPs and dust. It's more related to the environment than any product. This is what I would personally call "hype".
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^^^ Agree
 
I am going to sample a few QDs after the recent application of DG 105 Sealant and then last week I applied DODo Juice Blue Velvet Wax on the cured sealant. Now I need a QD that I can use after every ONR wash on weekends.

So far, these have been suggested to me - FK 425, Optimum Instant Detailer,Zaino Z6, OCW and Meg's UQW. I am skeptical if the OCW and UQW can be used every week and if they will help with the dust.

Anybody has experience with these QDs?
 
I've just sampled Dodo Juice Basics of Bling 2 days ago. Honestly? I don't like it at all. It's a dust magnet. With the positive reviews, I figured it would be a step up from Meg's Last Touch. Not with my case. Where is the 'slickness' everyone was talking about? It was sticky and grabby on my paint. As a matter a fact, I had orange fuzz all over the hood. It was lint from the BOA edgeless. This didn't happen with Last Touch, or any QD solution from the rinseless in my inventory.
 
Mr Megane said:
Wolfs are pretty clear that you should be using only their wash and maintenance products. These products tend to contain additional protecting components so probably keep 'topping up' the hydrophobic character which will go some way to making sure the original sealant lives up to expectation.
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That kind of defeats the whole point of a coating. A coating should be able to withstand more abuse than a conventional LSP. I'm leery when I see someone selling a coating that can't withstand any quality car soap and still bead water for a lifespan that exceeds a conventional product.

You could use any sealant/wax and keep "topping it up" with gloss enhancing shampoo and spray wax every wash and it will last forever.

In my mind there is only one coating - and that is Opticoat. Even though it failed for me for an unknown reason, numerous people have reported it surviving years of abuse. Also, its survived over a year on my wheels and they are cleaned frequently with wheel cleaners and brushes.

I just don't see how a product that needs "topping up" is really a coating.
 
Nick@Autogeek said:
I've always great success with Wolfgang Deep Gloss Spritz Sealant. Its dust attraction (or lack there of) is the best I've found for any LSP.

It provides up to two months of stand alone paint protection but you can use it over any LSP you'd like - coatings, waxes, sealants, etc.
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Product description states that totally dry conditions are needed in order for the sealant to properly bond and cure. But you know how there are always those annoying little drips that appear on your car, even after a thorough drying. Will these drips affect the curing and bonding?
 
Any liquid you apply on the paint including plain water will negate the dust magnet effect.

All that is required is breaking the magnetic effect which liquids will do. Some do it better than others but essentially if you hit your car every day with detail spray you'd probably never have a dust problem....however you'd end up most likely with a swirled up mess on your hands.

Over the years I've learned one thing...touch the paint as little as possible. I now wash it every 7-10 days and never touch it in between come hell or high water. My paint has thanked me ever since.
 
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