Dust Retention Problem

[vpm]

I purchased a 2013 Buick Verano Turbo a few months ago in the Luxo Blue Metallic Color. I use mostly Blackfire products; conditioning shampoo, all finish paint protection and the polymer spray. Because of the semi-dark color and aerodynamics of this vehicle, it has a propensity to attractive dust/dirt on the rear end. This occurs within 1 mile of driving it after I wash it. The whole vehicle attracts dust after I buff off the paint protection. It is very noticeable due to the dark color.

I know the problem is occurring due to static electricity caused by the microfiber towels. Is there another spray on product that anyone can recommend that would effectively reduce the dust retention. When just the dust collects on the rear is there a spray on product that I can use to remove the dust without scratching the paint finish. I do not have any experience using a waterless car wash spray and am leery about rubbing any type of towel over a dirty surface for fear of scratching the clear coat.

Any tips or tricks would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

[zmcgovern45]

If it is simply dust, you can carefully wipe it off with your choice of quick detail spray and plush microfiber towel. Very little pressure should be used for this, as dust simply wipes off of the surface.

 

[vpm]

Thank you for your response. That is what I have been doing. What I would like to find out is if there is a product other than a quick detail spray that help reduce the static electricity which causes the paint surface to be such a dust magnet. This malady occurs within 1 mile of driving the car after I wash it.

This is the absolute worst vehicle that I have ever owned where this has been such an annoying problem. I realize I will not be able to alleviate it, but I would like to reduce it if possible.

 

[Boudin]

FK425 is the only thing I know of that may work for that, to an extent. Anti static properties usually don't last any significant length of time.

I'm about to try Carpro Reload on my black tundra that I'm experiencing the same problem on.

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[ihaveacamaro]

Ironic that a detailed vehicle scientifically actually gets dirtier faster than a non detailed vehicle. It's a catch 22.

 

[rott3np3anut]

Just an idea here. Not sure if it'll help so maybe some others can chime in. I just saw Nick's Review of CarPro Hydro2. It's a sealant that you spray on after washing, while the car is still wet, and then rinse off. In the review, he just dries it with a Metro vacuum. Since you don't have to buff it off or dry the car with a microfiber, there's less static. However, I also read in one of Mike's articles that paint has some static properties in it that attract dust as well. Again, not positive this will help. What does everyone else think?

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Ironic that a detailed vehicle scientifically actually gets dirtier faster than a non detailed vehicle. It's a catch 22.

Over the years I've done a lot of "Wax Tests", I normally don't post the pictures or results from these test but do them for my own information. It includes stripping black demo panels surgically clean then applying the test products to very specific and defined taped-off sections on the paint with the bare/stripped paint surrounding the treated paint.

What I have seen consistently over the years is that any treated paint will collect dust more readily than the bare paint. The only product that I've seen that showed reduced dust collation is the Ultima Paint Guard.

Wiping a panel with a water dampened microfiber towel will temporarily remove "some" of the surface static charge modern clear coats have naturally. Water isn't normally as good of a lubricant as a brand name "spray detailer" and since a spray detailer contains water plus gloss enhancing ingredients, wiping paint down with a spray detailer will,

• Temporarily remove any surface static electricity
• Lubricate the surface as you wipe
• Leave the paint looking clean and shiny

These benefits mean it's better to use spray detailer than just water. (at least to me).

However, I also read in one of Mike's articles that paint has some static properties in it that attract dust as well. Again, not positive this will help. What does everyone else think?

I have an article on this topic here,

Static Electricity and Dust Attraction to your Car's Paint

 

[FUNX650]

Just an idea here. Not sure if it'll help so maybe some others can chime in. I just saw Nick's Review of CarPro Hydro2.
It's a sealant that you spray on after washing, while the car is still wet, and then rinse off. In the review, he just dries it with a Metro vacuum.
Since you don't have to buff it off or dry the car with a microfiber, there's less static. However, I also read in one of Mike's articles that paint has some static properties in it that attract dust as well.
Again, not positive this will help. What does everyone else think?

It just may be a worthwhile LSP-application-venture.

However, after the blow-drying has been completed (and as the old adage goes):
Sooner or later the dust has to settle.


To paraphrase Drake's "Sooner Than Later" lyrics:

"Is it worth it, that decision?
Cuz hearts breakin, I ain't tryin to be in that collision
So I'm gonna dust my shirt,
And dust my pants
Cuz I better look good if this is my chance"

Dust, seemingly, is everywhere...all of the time.

-If everyone just knew what the dust that we breathe-in was composed of...
Well, it's not for the faint-of-heart to hear, let's say, in this format.




Bob

 

[ihaveacamaro]

It just may be a worthwhile LSP-application-venture.

However, after the blow-drying has been completed (and as the old adage goes):
Sooner or later the dust has to settle.


To paraphrase Drake's "Sooner Than Later" lyrics:

"Is it worth it, that decision?
Cuz hearts breakin, I ain't tryin to be in that collision
So I'm gonna dust my shirt,
And dust my pants
Cuz I better look good if this is my chance"

Dust, seemingly, is everywhere...all of the time.

-If everyone just knew what the dust that we breathe-in was composed of...
Well, it's not for the faint-of-heart to hear, let's say, in this format.




Bob

I'm changing my sig to reflect my increasingly growing respect for you rops:

 

[vpm]

Based on everyone's responses I find the best way to proceed is the following:

I have standardized on Blackfire products, am very happy with their products performance, and have too much inventory to try other products at this time. Saying that, I do have a couple of Blackfire products in my arsenal that I can use to reduce the static electricity. The Wet Diamond Polymer Spray does help a little, and the Crystal Seal Paint Sealant is the same as FK425 and Ultima Paint Guard as it applies the same way and requires no buffing. It also produces a very slick finish.
I could also try grounding my car.

The CarPro Hydro2 is an interesting product, but not practical for applying in doors since they recommend using a pressure washer. What a mess that would make in the garage. So those customers like myself that live in an area that experience winter weather with cold temperatures and snow are out of luck unless they have a heated garage with a drain. I have both so I can clean my car at any temperature, but I would refrain from using my pressure washer in the garage due to the engine noise and mess the overspray would cause. This is definitely a product best applied out doors.

I also feel some of the dust problem at the rear is caused by the turbulent airflow exiting the vehicle. My other vehicles were not as bad in this respect. Last but not least, I will most probably purchase a silver car next time as this color is very good at visually masking dirt that accumulates on the vehicle. I knew this dark Luxo Blue was going to be a problem before purchasing the vehicle, but it is a very attractive color when clean, plus it was a new color for 2013. GM is more conservative than Ford when it comes to offering IMPACT COLORS on their mainstream vehicles.

Thank you all for your responses! Im the MAN

 

[mg6045]

Sonax Polymer Net Shield is the most effective product as far as reduced dust/dirt collection that I have ever seen with my eyes or used. Especially on the rear side of the car like the trunk and rear bumper.

i also own a black car. It also has insane water beading similar to EXO.

I cant explain how interesting an impressive this product has been over the last couple months for myself. I apply it to basically anything that is receptive to it.

Sonax Polymer Net Shield, sonax polymer netshield, sonax profiline polymer netshield

give it a try, Im really really confident that you will NOT be disappointed. btw, its also significantly more durable than EXO and the price in comparison... uhmm you can see for yourself...

 

[mg6045]

Based on everyone's responses I find the best way to proceed is the following:

I have standardized on Blackfire products, am very happy with their products performance, and have too much inventory to try other products at this time. Saying that, I do have a couple of Blackfire products in my arsenal that I can use to reduce the static electricity. The Wet Diamond Polymer Spray does help a little, and the Crystal Seal Paint Sealant is the same as FK425 and Ultima Paint Guard as it applies the same way and requires no buffing. It also produces a very slick finish.
I could also try grounding my car.

The CarPro Hydro2 is an interesting product, but not practical for applying in doors since they recommend using a pressure washer. What a mess that would make in the garage. So those customers like myself that live in an area that experience winter weather with cold temperatures and snow are out of luck unless they have a heated garage with a drain. I have both so I can clean my car at any temperature, but I would refrain from using my pressure washer in the garage due to the engine noise and mess the overspray would cause. This is definitely a product best applied out doors.

I also feel some of the dust problem at the rear is caused by the turbulent airflow exiting the vehicle. My other vehicles were not as bad in this respect. Last but not least, I will most probably purchase a silver car next time as this color is very good at visually masking dirt that accumulates on the vehicle. I knew this dark Luxo Blue was going to be a problem before purchasing the vehicle, but it is a very attractive color when clean, plus it was a new color for 2013. GM is more conservative than Ford when it comes to offering IMPACT COLORS on their mainstream vehicles.

Thank you all for your responses! Im the MAN

FK 425 is a quick detailer. its not the same in anyway compared to Blackfire crystal seal or Ultima Paint Gaurd Plus.

ALSO, Ultima Paint Guard Plus may seem similar to Blackfire Crystal Seal, but it actually behaves a lot differently than the other Wipe on walk away products. it sheets water intensely and is more durable and the look is different. its also a little more sensitive to over application. learning to use it on a black vehicle is the best bet as you can actually see the product being spread on the paint.