Edge smear with Meg's UP

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Hi guys,

I'm currently polishing out my brother's Black Scion tC and overall it's going fairly well. I've noticed however that I'm consistently having an issue where I finish a section, wipe off the majority of the area to a nice clean finish, but I'm left with a few spots where there is still residue from the UP. These areas namely are the perimeter of the buffing area, and the spot where I end up turning the polisher off (a small circle where the centre of the pad is). My MF towels are clean and it gets to the point where even if I "scrub" (don't cringe) hard, the UP doesn't come off.

Here's my setup:


  • GG6, on speed 4-5, typically using a LC Flat Green or White polishing pad (I tried a finishing pad to see if anything would change but no luck).
  • Pad is primed lightly and I use 3 very small drops after that.
  • Pads are quite clean, and cleaned after each section or replaced.
  • Making roughly 5 section passes working 16" x 16" area
  • Paint is relatively soft I believe.
  • UP is currently the only polish I have.

My guess is that the edges of my section passes are not 100% worked in or as much as the inner area as there isn't any overlap on the perimeter of where you end up buffing, but I'm stumped as far as how to fix this. I've tried less product, more, different speeds and different pads, pointing me to either technique, or product.

As a side note, I've also read that M205 (although similar to UP) is easier to remove?


Thanks for any advice you can provide on this one.


Cheers
 
Try a qd or coating prep spray to see if that will help remove your stubborn areas.
 
I used the get this once in a while too. I use UP a LOT, and don't get this anymore.

To get it off, wipe off the pad with a microfiber towel.

Close and shake the bottle very thoroughly.

Apply the three small dots to the pad, and go over the area again (don't "prime" again). This should reactivate the residue, then wipe off immediately. On the gg6, probably speed 4 will work. Light pressure.

Sound like too much polish may have been used to prime the pad. With UP you don't need really more than four dots to start with, then three to reload.
 
I used the get this once in a while too. I use UP a LOT, and don't get this anymore.

To get it off, wipe off the pad with a microfiber towel.

Close and shake the bottle very thoroughly.

Apply the three small dots to the pad, and go over the area again (don't "prime" again). This should reactivate the residue, then wipe off immediately. On the gg6, probably speed 4 will work. Light pressure.

Sound like too much polish may have been used to prime the pad. With UP you don't need really more than four dots to start with, then three to reload.


I did what you said, and it worked well (thanks!). For fresh pads, I just used 4 dots to 'prime' the pad instead of priming the whole pad first (I was under the impression that priming the whole pad first was the best/safest way of doing this, but I'm sure it depends on the product).

The next panels I've done have come out fairly well with the odd one having the same problem, but more likely due to needing a little more time working the product.

Side note: do you guys feel it's worth stepping up to M205 from UP for these reasons? Where I live, UP is available OTC, whereas M205 is online only.


Thanks again for the help, you guys are great.
 
I used isopropyl alcohol for years before finding Car Pro Eraser. I absolutely adore that stuff for removing product from a panel with a gentle wipe and surgically clean MF's.
 
I did what you said, and it worked well (thanks!). For fresh pads, I just used 4 dots to 'prime' the pad instead of priming the whole pad first (I was under the impression that priming the whole pad first was the best/safest way of doing this, but I'm sure it depends on the product).

The next panels I've done have come out fairly well with the odd one having the same problem, but more likely due to needing a little more time working the product.

Side note: do you guys feel it's worth stepping up to M205 from UP for these reasons? Where I live, UP is available OTC, whereas M205 is online only.


Thanks again for the help, you guys are great.

No problem!

Possibly for some products / pads, priming the entire face of the pad works, but for me, and my style of polishing, I almost always start with the four (five if compounding) drops on a foam pad.

I had a bottle that I think went bad, and had "glaze deposits" no matter what I did, so I just grabbed a new bottle. Not sure how old your bottle is, but I haven't had that happen since I replaced the original bottle from when it was first released.

I prefer UP, but use M205 because of the bulk availability. Also, it won't leave that "glaze deposit" on the paint. It's body shop safe, and super easy to use.
 
Bottle is brand new, but that's something to keep in mind for sure. Thanks again for your help. The paint on this car was all swirled out so the results (to me anyway) feel dramatic and it's nice to look at.
 
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