David at LC Pads
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Anytime :dblthumb2:
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Billy Baldone
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I blame Gremlins. Maybe even the AMC version too. But definitely gremlins.
ryandamartini
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What size backing plate were you using? If it's too small, it will cause stress on the pad from being jerked back and forth leading to premature failure.
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Maybe, but if it was they had bow ties on LOL
It was the 6" backing plate that came with the GG when I bought it.
dlc95
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The blow out hole appears to be in the shape of a hexagon. Sabotage from hex logic? :laughing:
In all seriousness, it looks to be in the rivet pattern found on top of the backing plate. If that's the case, it may have been the heat. Is the compression washer installed? Has the plate sustained any damage of it's own?
In all seriousness, it looks to be in the rivet pattern found on top of the backing plate. If that's the case, it may have been the heat. Is the compression washer installed? Has the plate sustained any damage of it's own?
cardaddy
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+1000 with the other replies.
At a bare minimum I'd say 4 pads to compound a vehicle, if not 6. Switching to polishing you can go to 3~4, but with compounding... the more the merrier.
@David w/Lake Country... THANK YOU! :dblthumb2:
I might add... in addition to what David and others have said, heat building up in the pad is (of course) caused by product and friction on the surface/in the pad. BUT... it is also caused in a major way by the Velcro at the BACK of the pad and the way it interfaces with the backing plate. Back there it has nowhere to go, and will get terribly hot.
When buffing your vehicle you should do 1 panel, (maybe even half a panel when talking about the hood/roof) and then pull the pad to check for heat. Put the BACK of the pad against your cheek, (not the front) and if it's more than just barely warm... get a new one. After each panel do that, first in, first out until you've gone through all 4~6 of them. By the time you get back to the first one it'll be cool again.
In the early years of the Meguiar's microfiber pads they had a problem with the pads delaminating/over heating. The engineers went to work on the problem and came out with a 'dedicated' backing plate/pad "system" that is designed to work together to help with that friction that was being generated between their pads and other backing plates. Since then you hardly ever hear about those pads failing. (At least with guys that know how to use them, and clean them with air after each section pass.)
It's easy to see in fact when you try one manufacturers backing plate/system versus another. Rupes for instance has such a hold on the pads that it's darned hard to get ANY pad off the backing plate without damaging it. You REALLY don't want to try and remove on of their microfiber pads after it gets even the slightest amount of heat in in or it'll fall to pieces!
At a bare minimum I'd say 4 pads to compound a vehicle, if not 6. Switching to polishing you can go to 3~4, but with compounding... the more the merrier.
@David w/Lake Country... THANK YOU! :dblthumb2:
I might add... in addition to what David and others have said, heat building up in the pad is (of course) caused by product and friction on the surface/in the pad. BUT... it is also caused in a major way by the Velcro at the BACK of the pad and the way it interfaces with the backing plate. Back there it has nowhere to go, and will get terribly hot.
When buffing your vehicle you should do 1 panel, (maybe even half a panel when talking about the hood/roof) and then pull the pad to check for heat. Put the BACK of the pad against your cheek, (not the front) and if it's more than just barely warm... get a new one. After each panel do that, first in, first out until you've gone through all 4~6 of them. By the time you get back to the first one it'll be cool again.
In the early years of the Meguiar's microfiber pads they had a problem with the pads delaminating/over heating. The engineers went to work on the problem and came out with a 'dedicated' backing plate/pad "system" that is designed to work together to help with that friction that was being generated between their pads and other backing plates. Since then you hardly ever hear about those pads failing. (At least with guys that know how to use them, and clean them with air after each section pass.)
It's easy to see in fact when you try one manufacturers backing plate/system versus another. Rupes for instance has such a hold on the pads that it's darned hard to get ANY pad off the backing plate without damaging it. You REALLY don't want to try and remove on of their microfiber pads after it gets even the slightest amount of heat in in or it'll fall to pieces!
dlc95
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+1000 with the other replies.
At a bare minimum I'd say 4 pads to compound a vehicle, if not 6. Switching to polishing you can go to 3~4, but with compounding... the more the merrier.
@David w/Lake Country... THANK YOU! :dblthumb2:
I might add... in addition to what David and others have said, heat building up in the pad is (of course) caused by product and friction on the surface/in the pad. BUT... it is also caused in a major way by the Velcro at the BACK of the pad and the way it interfaces with the backing plate. Back there it has nowhere to go, and will get terribly hot.
When buffing your vehicle you should do 1 panel, (maybe even half a panel when talking about the hood/roof) and then pull the pad to check for heat. Put the BACK of the pad against your cheek, (not the front) and if it's more than just barely warm... get a new one. After each panel do that, first in, first out until you've gone through all 4~6 of them. By the time you get back to the first one it'll be cool again.
In the early years of the Meguiar's microfiber pads they had a problem with the pads delaminating/over heating. The engineers went to work on the problem and came out with a 'dedicated' backing plate/pad "system" that is designed to work together to help with that friction that was being generated between their pads and other backing plates. Since then you hardly ever hear about those pads failing. (At least with guys that know how to use them, and clean them with air after each section pass.)
It's easy to see in fact when you try one manufacturers backing plate/system versus another. Rupes for instance has such a hold on the pads that it's darned hard to get ANY pad off the backing plate without damaging it. You REALLY don't want to try and remove on of their microfiber pads after it gets even the slightest amount of heat in in or it'll fall to pieces!
Theirs meaning Rupes' microfiber pad?
Very good to know!
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cardaddy
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You are correct sir!
The combination of gorilla grip Velcro on the Rupes pads/backing plate combined with the (relatively) soft latex foam between the Velcro and the microfiber face of the pad makes removing those pads EXTREMELY difficult! Even in the best of circumstances you have to be far more careful than any other pads, but if you've been working one you can pretty much FORGET removing it without some sort of wide blade putty knife. You'll get one part up then when trying to get the other side, the first part sticks back down. With heat in it the latex foam part is so weak that it just rips to pieces.
FIWW I've tried the Meguiar's pads on the Duetto and while it still grips like crazy, I don't feel like I'm going to end up buying a new pad every time I remove one.
dlc95
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That's interesting. Those pads seem to run cooler for me. What machine were you using? What compound, how much pressure?