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Ted S.

Ted S.

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I've never done any of these before, but I started a "cause" for buying American Goods/Products only for set periods of time. I will start at two weeks, October 1-14. The exception will be for things like gas.

Buy American Only: Two week Challenge. | causes.com

The goal of this cause is to bring awareness to everyone how important our everyday purchases are to our economy, and how important it is to support your country.

Any facebook users interested to join?

Should be pretty easy for detailers and auto-geeks, since a vast number of detailing products are made in the good ol USA.
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OK, this is a real pet peeve of mine..

I think buying American products is as important as keeping "One Nation Under God" in the Pledge Of Allegiance". You know, like NBC did the other day. These scumbags felt it best to leave "One Nation Under God" out of their advertisement because it might offend 1 or 2 people somewhere.... :bat:

GM, Ford, Chrysler, John Deer, Porter Cable, Dewalt, and the list goes on and on, have their parts manufactured in China, Mexico, Japan, The Philippines, and Vietnam. They do this for pennies on the dollar then expect us to pay $35,000 for an "American Made" car full of parts made outside this country!

All of these companies have built plants in these countries to harness the cheap labor, no worker protection, no worker insurance, no benefits, or chemical restrictions. I've seen one GM plant in Mexico and it's at least 2 miles long with all the cars and trucks we see on our American lots sitting right out front on concrete pads as proof.

Do you have any idea why we don't hear allot from General Motors in the US, other than they need the US Government to financially bail them out? It's because they sell approximately 3 times the number of cars in CHINA as they do in the US...

Ross Perot said; If NAFTA passes that Giant sucking sound you'll hear is all the American manufacturing jobs moving out of this country and over seas...... We can still hear that sucking sound today..

Who passed NAFTA?.................The politicians you and I elected to office to represent us, protect us, to secure and ensure our progress and way of life... Sponsored and Paid for by Corporate America

When "American Companies" begin caring about "American Workers" as much as they do about PROFIT then you'll begin to see America return.

That said, how do we buy American Made? :dunno:

OK, I'm off the podium.....
 
I think this is a great idea, and for the most part I try and do a lot of research when I buy things to find out where they are made, or where the parts come from. The sad fact is there are somethings you just CAN'T buy American. I was watching a show, I think Dateline NBC or something, about this topic and something as simple as certain type of light bulb could not be bought "American". This light bulb was ONLY manufactured overseas. That story not only pissed me off, but also inspired me to do as much research as possible.

I think this is a GREAT cause, and would be happy to join!
 
I don't do facebook, but I like your idea.

I agree with BobbyG's assessment. 'Made in America from foreign parts' is like bailing water from the boat with a sieve.

I try to buy 'made in the USA' but it is hard to find things that are. It used to be that foreign products were inferior in quality, but that isn't the case now.

I'll stay off the soapbox, but taxes and regulations are also to blame.
 
BobbyG said:
When "American Companies" begin caring about "American Workers" as much as they do about PROFIT then you'll begin to see America return.
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Good luck with that! The masses of America handed control over to Republicans during the last midterm and we all see what they've been doing since. Fighting for special interests, entitlement programs, tax breaks for corporations and the rich, all the while doing everything they can to break the middle class apart and move them into poverty.

Corporations are downsizing, taking away employee rights and benefits, and as far as I'm concerned we're in a downward spiral that simply must be stopped.

vet said:
It used to be that foreign products were inferior in quality, but that isn't the case now.
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Only because Americans have taught them how to build stuff properly. We've already given away the farm.
 
BobbyG said:
When "American Companies" begin caring about "American Workers" as much as they do about PROFIT then you'll begin to see America return.
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"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs." - 1 Timothy 6:10
 
Generally, "causes" (especially in the context of fb) are about people feeling better about these issues, thinking they can do something that could have an effect.
 
I agree and although I don't do FB I'm all about it! Also I think we need to elect people that will actually work for our country instead of for other countries. Unfortunately there are forces at work that pit the dems and repubs against each other all in show to make you think you have two seperate choices. In reality its the same team. Independant thinkers are made to look like fools by the controlled media and the pop culture that was infiltrated by the communists after they were defeated militarily. And after the tv says it enough each American (with a few exceptions) walks around believing what they were told to believe.

There is light in the darkness guys. Some manufacturing is moving back to the US. Due to fuel and shipping costs as well as the rise in cost of labor in other countries some companies are moving labor for us sold products back to the US. It used to be that manufacturing cost about 16$ an hour in the US compared to 0.50c in China. Now its closer to $12 compared to 4$ if I remember the article correctly... Then you factor in the shipping costs and complications and it has become more palitable. The largest furniture maker in the US and Caterpillar are two of the bigger examples cited in the article.
 
No one try and get too worked up over this. I know it has become a sensitive issue.

I was watching the news the other day, ABC, and they reported that if every American (or family?) spent just $3.?? on American made goods each year, we could create 10,000 a year.

It's still a stretch to get a mass amount of people to commit for a couple of weeks. In these days it appears that people’s wants always exceed their needs. Most people just don't care where their stuff is made, which strikes me as both lethargic and self-interested.

I know Facebook causes isn't going to really make a difference, but it's worth a try, at the least.

Also, lets try and keep party-politics out of this thread. The goal of this isn't to bash any group. Just to make an awarness.
 
BobbyG said:
OK, this is a real pet peeve of mine..

I think buying American products is as important as keeping "One Nation Under God" in the Pledge Of Allegiance". You know, like NBC did the other day. These scumbags felt it best to leave "One Nation Under God" out of their advertisement because it might offend 1 or 2 people somewhere.... :bat:

GM, Ford, Chrysler, John Deer, Porter Cable, Dewalt, and the list goes on and on, have their parts manufactured in China, Mexico, Japan, The Philippines, and Vietnam. They do this for pennies on the dollar then expect us to pay $35,000 for an "American Made" car full of parts made outside this country!

All of these companies have built plants in these countries to harness the cheap labor, no worker protection, no worker insurance, no benefits, or chemical restrictions. I've seen one GM plant in Mexico and it's at least 2 miles long with all the cars and trucks we see on our American lots sitting right out front on concrete pads as proof.

Do you have any idea why we don't hear allot from General Motors in the US, other than they need the US Government to financially bail them out? It's because they sell approximately 3 times the number of cars in CHINA as they do in the US...

Ross Perot said; If NAFTA passes that Giant sucking sound you'll hear is all the American manufacturing jobs moving out of this country and over seas...... We can still hear that sucking sound today..

Who passed NAFTA?.................The politicians you and I elected to office to represent us, protect us, to secure and ensure our progress and way of life... Sponsored and Paid for by Corporate America

When "American Companies" begin caring about "American Workers" as much as they do about PROFIT then you'll begin to see America return.

That said, how do we buy American Made? :dunno:

OK, I'm off the podium.....
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:dblthumb2::dblthumb2::dblthumb2: You pretty much hit the nail on the head!
 
BobbyG said:
When "American Companies" begin caring about "American Workers" as much as they do about PROFIT then you'll begin to see America return.
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A big par tof the problem IS American Workers, Most of the auto industury (for example) is filled with the laziest most entitled workers i have ever seen. When America gets a decent work ethic, we will see jobs coming back here. Being American doens't mean you are a better worker, being a better worker means you are a better worker.
 
Subieski said:
A big par tof the problem IS American Workers, Most of the auto industury (for example) is filled with the laziest most entitled workers i have ever seen. When America gets a decent work ethic, we will see jobs coming back here. Being American doens't mean you are a better worker, being a better worker means you are a better worker.
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:iagree:However, the majority of the lazy workers work for the big 3 bailed out auto companies. Foreign companies like Kia opened some factories in the U.S.A., and the quality of their cars went way up. Lazy workers suck....
 
Ted, Ford didn't take any bailout money and as far making this political (shiny detailer) give it a rest. Politicians are in the game for themselves even though they'll tell you different to your face. Limit campaign contributions to 10 cents max and take away all the luxury ideas that congresscritters vote for themselves and then you'll see who really wants to serve the people. Unfortunately this would be one big longshot in happening.
 
Subieski said:
A big par tof the problem IS American Workers, Most of the auto industury (for example) is filled with the laziest most entitled workers i have ever seen. When America gets a decent work ethic, we will see jobs coming back here. Being American doens't mean you are a better worker, being a better worker means you are a better worker.
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Eric,

If you're referring to once upon a time, the 70's and 80's I'd agree wholeheartedly. Today I get a sense that the attitudes of yesteryear were a contributing factor in the demise of the American automobile.

Today's auto workers are a new bread.

The environment in which they work in today is completely different and the work ethics are more in line with quality and cost. American automobiles for the most part are on par with their import counterpart. Independent testing and studies have proven this and if you're old enough to remember the unreliable crap that came out of American factories during those times and compare it to the automobiles produced here today there is no comparison.

Unfortunately the stigma of poor quality is still with us but to a much lessor degree. This stigma is unfortunately generational providing the quality, reliability, and dependability continues in time this will disappear.

For the most part American workers have a good work ethic. I'm not implying that all do but a majority do, yes. Demographics come into play here and there are those segments of society that don't want to work, don't feel they should have to, and live off the government. That's not a worker problem it's a systemic cultural problem that must be addressed.

I travel all over the globe and therefore have a good sampling of worker laziness and it's everywhere, not just in the US.
 
I'm not saying the product they make isn't doesn't stand up to other imports (although there are very few american cars i would buy; thats a different thing)

In my experience a good portion of them believe they deserve benifts and pay that is beyond rediculous. i agree it is a culture change that needs to occur, with the workers being a part of that culture. When companies see that the workers here stand above the outsourced options we will see a change. Yes laziness is everywhere, but a lazy worker with a pension, lift restrictions, phenomenal healthcare, 4 weeks vacation and triple time on sundays is usually found here.
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
Good luck with that! The masses of America handed control over to Republicans during the last midterm and we all see what they've been doing since. Fighting for special interests, entitlement programs, tax breaks for corporations and the rich, all the while doing everything they can to break the middle class apart and move them into poverty.

Corporations are downsizing, taking away employee rights and benefits, and as far as I'm concerned we're in a downward spiral that simply must be stopped.



Only because Americans have taught them how to build stuff properly. We've already given away the farm.
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Keep voting for Baracky and see what happens the next 4 years of his dictatorship.
 
Scott DeBrun said:
Ted, Ford didn't take any bailout money and as far making this political (shiny detailer) give it a rest. Politicians are in the game for themselves even though they'll tell you different to your face. Limit campaign contributions to 10 cents max and take away all the luxury ideas that congresscritters vote for themselves and then you'll see who really wants to serve the people. Unfortunately this would be one big longshot in happening.
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Thanks, I'm aware Ford didn't take any money, but for some reason I keep thinking GM, Chrystler, and some other company took money. I want to think it was three companies and I know I'm wrong.:doh: I whole heartedly agree with your entire reply Scott!:dblthumb2:

Hey Bobby, I also agree with 100% of your points! Are you sure you live in MA?:laughing:

I guess this is another thread of mine that will have to be closed, I do not like politics invading my threads. :offtopic:
I understand this is an issue that politics easily get involved with. AGO does not have any policy restricting any political based comments, but it does have rules against bashing other members. I think if anyone continues to ignore this plead, I ask for the thread to be closed.
 
NoBama316 said:
Keep voting for Baracky and see what happens the next 4 years of his dictatorship.
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Do you really think we'd have been better off with McCain and Palin? :nomore:

Ted S. said:
I guess this is another thread of mine that will have to be closed, I do not like politics invading my threads. :offtopic:
I understand this is an issue that politics easily get involved with. AGO does not have any policy restricting any political based comments, but it does have rules against bashing other members. I think if anyone continues to ignore this plead, I ask for the thread to be closed.
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Honestly Ted, you can't have this conversation without politics entering into it. There's a reason things have gotten the way they are. Ignoring that reality means ignoring what is necessary to solve the problem.

Getting back to your point about buying American, while there are a lot of things that are available as Made-in-USA, there are just as many items where no matter how hard you look, you can't find an American-made alternative. We often don't have a choice in the matter anymore.
 
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