Favorite Waterless Wash

Favorite Waterless Wash

  • McKee's 37 N-914

    Votes: 39 27.1%
  • Optimum Opti Clean

    Votes: 28 19.4%
  • Griots Waterless Spray-On Car Wash

    Votes: 5 3.5%
  • McKee's 37 Waterless Wash

    Votes: 12 8.3%
  • Ultima Waterless Wash Plus+

    Votes: 57 39.6%
  • Chemical Guys EcoSmart

    Votes: 4 2.8%

  • Total voters
    144
I never even considered using it as a waterless wash until I read it on bottle and it said right on there.

It works good as a remover for PNS and give it that extra pop of shine and gloss

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The only thing I don’t like is that it beads up on the surface but this was due to me sealing my paint with Carpro Reload 6 days ago most likely.
As you said, it's not the N-914 causing the beading. What's the issue with beading?
 
As you said, it's not the N-914 causing the beading. What's the issue with beading?

No issue at other than I go through like 6 towels because the tight beads cause the microfiber to absorb more product. But overall I LOVE waterless washing now and 914 just makes so much sense to me. It cleans and that’s it. That’s what shampoo/soap is designed to do.


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Wolfgang Uber is the best I've tried. Cleans, doesn't streak, slick, good lubricity, economical and leaves nice shine.

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Wolfgang Uber is the best I've tried. Cleans, doesn't streak, slick, good lubricity, economical and leaves nice shine.

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Uber is my favorite.
 
I don't use them very often, but I do use them as a pre-soak for when I do rinseless wash is. I used to be a big Wolfgang Uber fan, but I felt the polymers or interfering with the action of the hydrophobic coating I had on the car. Fortunately, I have a bunch of leftover D114 as well as some N914. So, when I do a waterless wash, I use those two now.
 
Wolfgang Uber then Optimum No Rinse. I am just finishing up my first gallon of WG Uber and have my second one on the way. It should be here in a couple days! Its amazing.
 
Started using Ultima. I think I was expecting amazing things from it, based on everyone liking it.

Blackfire's is pretty good. It seems to make metallic paint pop a bit more.
 
Pinnacle is the only one I was not happy with. I tried to like it and as it was the first WW I tried it almost soured me from the process as a whole. To use up the remainder of the Pinnacle I used it to “condition “ my rinse water for my two BM washes. I subsequently found Meguires d114 and McKees N-914 for coated vehicles and they changed my view on waterless washes (for the better). I also like CarPro ECH2O for waterless/rinseless washing when I want to add some shine to the wash.
 
You think it made any real difference as a "conditioner?"

I've always wondered about that. Lately, even more so. As in, what happens to the crud or minerals or whatever/ Do they get dissolved by the "conditioner" ???

Glad to see you use it up, though. :)
 
I love Blackfire waterless wash. I use mostly Meguiar's products including their Ultimate Wash and Wax Anywhere occasionally, which is very good, but the slickness and gloss on the Blackfire is unmatched from what I've used.
 
I love Blackfire waterless wash. I use mostly Meguiar's products including their Ultimate Wash and Wax Anywhere occasionally, which is very good, but the slickness and gloss on the Blackfire is unmatched from what I've used.

Agreed it’s definitely top notch stuff


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Started using Ultima. I think I was expecting amazing things from it, based on everyone liking it.

Blackfire's is pretty good. It seems to make metallic paint pop a bit more.

How was your experience with ultima? Is this the same WW that can be used as rinseless? Or is this the one with acrylic?
 
How was your experience with ultima? Is this the same WW that can be used as rinseless? Or is this the one with acrylic?

I like it just fine. The owner of the vehicle I'm maintaining with it is VERY happy with it.

It's the one that can be diluted for WW as well as for rinseless. I'm using both dilutions for the car noted above. It is NOT the version with the acrylic. I do have Ultima Acrylic Spray wax that I'll use maybe once a month, just to aid in protection on that particular car.

It has a pleasant scent. I like the color of it, in both dilutions (in a bucket, or in the 24oz spray bottle I keep the WW in). It cleans well. The WW leaves a nice, smooth feel that I don't remember getting with ONR (used to be my go-to for a couple of years).

edit:​ Oh, and to show how much I like it, I'll be buying more down the line.
 
I like it just fine. The owner of the vehicle I'm maintaining with it is VERY happy with it.

It's the one that can be diluted for WW as well as for rinseless. I'm using both dilutions for the car noted above. It is NOT the version with the acrylic. I do have Ultima Acrylic Spray wax that I'll use maybe once a month, just to aid in protection on that particular car.

It has a pleasant scent. I like the color of it, in both dilutions (in a bucket, or in the 24oz spray bottle I keep the WW in). It cleans well. The WW leaves a nice, smooth feel that I don't remember getting with ONR (used to be my go-to for a couple of years).

I have like 3/4 gallon left of ONRWW. I like the shine left behind after washing, but is not as slick as let’s say, Meguiars UWWA.

Does this Ultima has “wax” component?
 
I have like 3/4 gallon left of ONRWW. I like the shine left behind after washing, but is not as slick as let’s say, Meguiars UWWA.

Does this Ultima has “wax” component?

I believe it does have some "wax" component. With the Blackfire WW and the Ultima WW, I find that as I keep "drying" after a few wipes, the smoothness comes alive. So it's like I dry, then final buff, to get that slick feeling.

I had several 32oz bottles of ONR and it took some time to get down to where I am with it. Sold off a bottle with some other OPT products. Used ONR heavily as a clay lube, etc. Gave some samples away. hehe. I really wanted to try Ultima. ONR is fine enough and I still like it. It's great value. I'm sure I'll always have some around. :)

Part of what I'm doing, though, is keeping one car maintained with Ultima products and another car with Blackfire products. I'm looking at an overall long-term user experience. So far, BOTH are wonderful products.
 
I believe it does have some "wax" component. With the Blackfire WW and the Ultima WW, I find that as I keep "drying" after a few wipes, the smoothness comes alive. So it's like I dry, then final buff, to get that slick feeling.

I had several 32oz bottles of ONR and it took some time to get down to where I am with it. Sold off a bottle with some other OPT products. Used ONR heavily as a clay lube, etc. Gave some samples away. hehe. I really wanted to try Ultima. ONR is fine enough and I still like it. It's great value. I'm sure I'll always have some around. :)

Part of what I'm doing, though, is keeping one car maintained with Ultima products and another car with Blackfire products. I'm looking at an overall long-term user experience. So far, BOTH are wonderful products.

I would like to try out both ultima and BF lines. I liked BF one step so much. But not yet... not yet....
 
Its simple...CarPro Echo, makes both a great rinseless as well as waterless, not even close IMO. The way the paint looks afterwards is VERY noticeable!!

Even though I made my call here McKee's N914 is a must have, I'd actually say it's a better waterless wash because of how it CLEANS, pure finish left behind!

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