First large order, any input?

Alright, last question for now. For a car that is outside 90% of the time, and in semi-direct sun and under trees, is coating a good way to go? I know nothing will be good, no way around it. I plan on changing the full sun thing eventually but I don't expect that within a year.

Would I be best with wax until I can start storing under cover?
 
I’d not use a coating if my car was outside and under a tree all the time. It will end up with water spots and tree sap on it and to remove those you’ll end up damaging the coating. For a car that is outside I would go with a sealant and/or wax.

That’s just my personal opinion.
 
BSoares said:
I’d not use a coating if my car was outside and under a tree all the time. It will end up with water spots and tree sap on it and to remove those you’ll end up damaging the coating. For a car that is outside I would go with a sealant and/or wax.

That’s just my personal opinion.
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I think I am going wax/sealant and then getting a coating once I have a permanent spot under cover for it.
 
BSoares said:
I’d not use a coating if my car was outside and under a tree all the time. It will end up with water spots and tree sap on it and to remove those you’ll end up damaging the coating. For a car that is outside I would go with a sealant and/or wax.

That’s just my personal opinion.
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I agree 100%.
 
Is the 3D Speed a "top notch" wax/sealant? Like should I just go right out and get the 3D One/Speed combo or should I take another 9 hours for research? Haha
 
Mallowpuff said:
Is the 3D Speed a "top notch" wax/sealant? Like should I just go right out and get the 3D One/Speed combo or should I take another 9 hours for research? Haha
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Speed is a good product but the protection in an AIO is nothing to get excited about. It's in there to be a time saver.

Since this is your car and it seems you have no problem putting in the time I would not use an AIO and get a dedicated protection product.

Jescar Power Lock Plus (I think it is sold here) is a very popular sealant. There is a close cousin to this in the Wolfgang line (Deep Crystal Paint Sealant or something like that) that is/was very popular in the forum. Some people like to top Power Lock with Collinite 845.

Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax is another good sealant that has good properties and durability if applied using a slightly off label dry application method. It has ceramic in the name but I don't think it is any more prone to water spots than these other sealants. It is not an SIO2 coating.

Turtle Wax Seal and Shine (SNS) has a cult following. I've used it myself but I prefer their ICE spray wax more then SNS. SNS lasts extremely long time in short term chemical tests but my experience in the real world was that it didn't last any longer than the ICE spray wax and that looks better and applies a little nicer.

The world has gone a bit crazy with Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions and now all the graphene products coming on the market.
 
Mallowpuff said:
Is the 3D Speed a "top notch" wax/sealant? Like should I just go right out and get the 3D One/Speed combo or should I take another 9 hours for research? Haha
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Speed is a great AIO product, but you won't be needing its correcting properties if you are using 3D One before. It also doesn't have very long lasting protection. 3D Poxy is the Montan wax/sealant that Speed has a percentage of. I have not used it, though I've read good things about it.

You could also try a coating "lite" type product. They have all the water beading and dust repelling properties of a coating, are as easy to apply as a sealant (after a prep wipe of course), but don't last as long as a true coating. Then you can re-polish and re-coat yearly, keeping the surface fresh. Something like Gyeon Can Coat or CQuartz Lite, maybe? Trying to pick one system or LSP is a mind boggling process because there are so many good options.
 
What about something like this? 3D HD One and Poxy 5.5? Paint Renewal Kit HD One to polish/compound and Poxy to wax/seal?

Also, update; My friend/body shop just told me he'd rather repaint the entire car from scratch. Like complete pull apart and repaint. Not sure if that would change something.

The reason for it is after a good cleaning I have found 2-3 dents per panel, every panel.
 
If you get a paint job on your car, be prepared to wait about 2 months before you can seal the paint. Check with your body shop on the exact time needed for their paint to stop out gassing.
 
BSoares said:
If you get a paint job on your car, be prepared to wait about 2 months before you can seal the paint. Check with your body shop on the exact time needed for their paint to stop out gassing.
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He told me 2-4 weeks for wax and 4-8 weeks for coating. He said he doesn't use coatings but almost always waxes at the 2-3 week mark with no issues ever. I'm fine waiting as long as needed. Better safe than sorry even if he would fix it if something went wrong.

The only reason I'll probably jump on this is he'll do it completely free minus materials. Even still it'll be 1-2 months until he can do it probably.
 
Mallowpuff said:
What about something like this? 3D HD One and Poxy 5.5? Paint Renewal Kit HD One to polish/compound and Poxy to wax/seal?

Also, update; My friend/body shop just told me he'd rather repaint the entire car from scratch. Like complete pull apart and repaint. Not sure if that would change something.

The reason for it is after a good cleaning I have found 2-3 dents per panel, every panel.
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That looks like a pretty sweet kit. I'd grab that, maybe an extra 6 pack of LC flat pads, and a spray quick detailer to keep it topped off.

Since the car is getting repainted soon, now is actually a good time to practice some polishing techniques, since it won't matter if anything were to go wrong (not that it would). I'd be too anxious to try my new polisher if I were you, the G9 is a fun tool.

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crg001 said:
That looks like a pretty sweet kit. I'd grab that, maybe an extra 6 pack of LC flat pads, and a spray quick detailer to keep it topped off.

Since the car is getting repainted soon, now is actually a good time to practice some polishing techniques, since it won't matter if anything were to go wrong (not that it would). I'd be too anxious to try my new polisher if I were you, the G9 is a fun tool.

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I was thinking the exact same thing!

I am getting everything sorted and I will post my final updated list.
 
The protection of 3D Speed is around 4 to 6 weeks. To extend the protection durability .... I been layering 303 Graphene on top of Speed. I did a maintenance wash recently on the Range Rover in the link I posted earlier and its still holding up strong.

My daily driver has the same set up and it sat outside 24/7 for the last few months. I did my first wash on it over a week and a half ago and the protection shows no signs of degrade. Dirt and grime came off easily. I am also seeing the same from several other vehicles.

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Final list?

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I have a Nanoskin fine pad and McKee's N-914 on the way from Amazon.

I think I am ready to order?
 
Why do you have the Carpro block and towels in the list if you’re not coating anymore? Just to have them for a future coating job?

If you’re getting the G9 make sure to use the 5” backing plate designed for it instead of the generic LC one.

And Reset is a fantastic soap for coatings but in my experience it does degrade weaker LSPs like waxes or sealants so again, if not coating, I’d consider a milder soap.
 
BSoares said:
Why do you have the Carpro block and towels in the list if you’re not coating anymore? Just to have them for a future coating job?

If you’re getting the G9 make sure to use the 5” backing plate designed for it instead of the generic LC one.

And Reset is a fantastic soap for coatings but in my experience it does degrade weaker LSPs like waxes or sealants so again, if not coating, I’d consider a milder soap.
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You're right, I need to take those out. Or I could keep them in I guess for a future job like you said. I just received the Pearl towels because I ordered those earlier so I may just get everything and be ready.

The real GG one is sold out, however I'll see if it's somewhere else.

I see.. I'll look at a different wash. Do you have an opinion a lighter soap that foams well in a cannon? I'll probably get Reset too and keep it for when I coat as well.

Thanks!
 
How about this? Got the GG backing plate with pads, moved down to the 6 pack of pads because the plate has 6 with it. I think I have a good assortment of pads, like 6 orange, 5 white/black(LC&GG) polishing, and 4 waxing. I am unsure if the white LC is fine enough for polishing but I think it is. Also any opinion on Jescar Car Shampoo? I heard good things on a few different places but I can swap it out.

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Good deal on the plate with pads.

As an alternative for Reset I would recommend Meguiar’s Hyper Wash. Very economical too as it’s super concentrated.
 
For pads I think orange and white will be the most used ones. I rarely use black and red.
 
BSoares said:
For pads I think orange and white will be the most used ones. I rarely use black and red.
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Changed to HyperWash.

I think the black pads with the adapter is closer to a white LC pad. It says polishing, no finishing.

As for the red, I am doing actual wax so I think that's best no? I was told waxing with a pad with any cut is a big no-no.
 
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