First real detail. Have final ?s

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First, seriously thanks to EVERYONE on here that gives their time and knowledge to people like me. It’s truly invaluable.

This coming Tuesday I’ll be doing my girlfriends 2009 Toyota Corolla White for my first real paint correction ever. I’ve spent literally this entire year reading, learning and watching everything I can to educate myself on this. I bought a new 2016 VW GLI in Tornado Red and want/need to do a paint correction on it. So my girlfriends car will be a great testing and learning car to start with since I can make mistakes and it’s really no big deal.

Her car has been neglected badly. I think there may even be some clear coat failure on the roof. All other panels just need some major TLC. I’ll be doing everything in our garage so I have shade and cover. I plan on taking the entire day to finish. Just need to buy a few more thing with your help to start. Please.

My tools that that I have already:

  • Griots Garage 6" Random Orbital w/ Extra-Long 25' (16 AWG) power cord
  • I have the 5" Orbital Conversion Kit in my Amazon cart now
  • Adams Polishes Car Shampoo
  • Microfiber Madness Inredimitt
  • CarPro Iron X fallout remover
  • Meguiar's Smooth Surface Clay Kit
  • Nanoskin Autoscrub Speedy Prep Fine Grade Sponge
  • All the lube I’ll ever need for the clay
  • Meguiar’s M105 Ultra-Cut Compound ( in my Amazon cart now )
  • Meguiar’s M205 Ultra Finishing Polish ( in my Amazon cart now )
  • All the proper microfiber towels I need
  • Adams Polishes Buttery Wax
  • SunJoe 4001 electric power washer
  • MTM P22 Foam Canon and Gun
  • All the proper things for the tires and such. Focusing on paint correction

Need:
  • Pads. Which ones? Colors? GG Boss, Meguiar’s, Lake County?
  • Eraser?
  • Anything else?

I really appreciate all your help and I just need this last little bit of help please. I’ve spent hours/days trying to learn and now it’s time to do. Any questions you have that I need to answer for better results, please ask and I’ll do it immediately. My Instagram page is here to give you a better idea what I’ve done and what I have. https://www.instagram.com/espresso.drinker/
 
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I'd get the Griot's garage 5 inch vented plate to increase cooling. Id go with flat pads from and company of choice or buff and shine long throw pads.
If I had to pick a company I'd say buff and shine or lake county. Make sure to have a pad cleaning brush as well

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Cruzscarwash said:
I'd get the Griot's garage 5 inch vented plate to increase cooling. Id go with flat pads from and company of choice or buff and shine long throw pads.
If I had to pick a company I'd say buff and shine or lake county. Make sure to have a pad cleaning brush as well

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I have the GG 5” vented plate package in my Amazon cart now that I’ll definitely be getting. Thanks for reminder on the pad cleaning brush.


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The kit u linked to is not the 5 inch. You don't need a "conversation" kit for the gg6 the vent plate will bolt right on

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Also since you are new it might be better to go with a different compound and polish. Those are great polishes but I feel they have a learning curve and boss creams, McKees, sonax, Wolfgang might be better for a first time user

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Cruzscarwash said:
The kit u linked to is not the 5 inch. You don't need a "conversation" kit for the gg6 the vent plate will bolt right on

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Oh! When I read the recent reviews I found a couple that said “The backplate has vented holes in it (unlike the Amazon picture) so you get better heat dispersion!”

Is this not what you’re talking about? If not, what is it you’re talking about? Sorry, this gets confusing fast with so many things that are similar. Thanks.


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Cruzscarwash said:
Also since you are new it might be better to go with a different compound and polish. Those are great polishes but I feel they have a learning curve and boss creams, McKees, sonax, Wolfgang might be better for a first time user

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I guess I might go with the Boss system then.


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I really like Buff & Shine pads. Will generally use their microfiber cutting pad and the green/blue foam polishing pads.

Recently purchased some of the LC Thinpro pads. Not a whole lot of history with them yet, but they work quite well too.
 
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I'd agree with Cruz. You need the Griots vented backing plate. Go with thin pads (LC ThinPro being my favorite). And I'd stay away from Megs 105/205 for a first time job. M105 in particular can be hard to work with. I'd suggest Griots Fast Correcting Cream instead. Works about as well and is much easier (no dusting, easy cleanup).
 
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Go with the Griots BOSS 5" pads....you will not be disappointed......oh, and before and after pics will be nice, too
 
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brettS4 said:
I'd agree with Cruz. You need the Griots vented backing plate. Go with thin pads (LC ThinPro being my favorite). And I'd stay away from Megs 105/205 for a first time job. M105 in particular can be hard to work with. I'd suggest Griots Fast Correcting Cream instead. Works about as well and is much easier (no dusting, easy cleanup).
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Thanks. I’ll go with GG stuff for the paint correction.

Like I mentioned a couple of posts above, I read some reviews that did say it was the vented plate.

“The backplate has vented holes in it (unlike the Amazon picture) so you get better heat dispersion!”

Is this not the same?

Thanks for your time.


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It's hard to say, the one I have and that is pictured is black with center and side holes. It also already has stall lines on the back of it. The picture your link showed was yellow and looks like a standard plate. I wouldn't risk it

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briarpatch said:
Go with the Griots BOSS 5" pads....you will not be disappointed......oh, and before and after pics will be nice, too
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I’m taking a ton of pictures. I want to turn this into a thing. It’s all I ever think and talk about.


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Cruzscarwash said:
It's hard to say, the one I have and that is pictured is black with center and side holes. It also already has stall lines on the back of it. The picture your link showed was yellow and looks like a standard plate. I wouldn't risk it

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No worries. I appreciate the look out and saving me time.


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Re: Cherry popping time. First real detail. Have final ?s

As far as pads, I also like the Lake Country Thin Pros on a DA.

Having said that, however, if I had a GG 6" and were going with their polishes I would probably get the Griots pads as well. I do like system approaches and while you can use any DA pads and polishes in a " mix and match approach" successfully there is something in my mind about having some folks engineer and design things to work together. Even though those that do mix n match can get the same results and maybe even better, I believe staying in the family and following the manufacturers instructions may make it easier for a first timer. Just my opinion...

Having the best first experience at this stuff is rare but there is nothing like researching the heck out of this stuff and then "feeling" it all work.

Best of luck and enjoy the heck out of it. Let us know how it comes out.
 
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M105 can be a bit tempestuous...if you haven't bought yet, switch it up to M101.
 
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https://www.autogeek.net/3m-auto-masking-tapes.html

https://www.autogeek.net/carpro-tar-x-600ml.html

https://www.autogeek.net/carpro-eraser-ipa.html

For safety I use masking tape so I don't damage plastics and rubber with my da. And the cleaning is easier after polishing also with masking tape covering the trim and rubber. You'll only need to remove the tape and done. If the car have heavy contaminants I would use a tar remover so the claying will go smoother. Then some ipa of some sort for check your work after both compound and polish. Just so the polishing oils don't cover the accually result. And you don't have to use these brands but they are good. And for last is some good lighting to see what you are doing :D
Just remember to do test spots. Your girlfriends car i believe is on the soft side of hardness of the clearcoat and your car is on the hard side. So on the test spot beginning with the least aggressiv pads and polish. Then wipe down with ipa and check if it is not enough step up with a more aggressiv combo and check again and so on to you are satisfied with the level of cut.
 
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And even if you remain committed to the M products I would probably want to try a test spot with 205 first maybe varying the bite with pad density changes if the first softer pad doesn't do it for you.

You describe her paint condition as basically hammered but it may also be thin to boot as evidenced by your suspicions of clearcoat failure. I wouldn't go nuts outta the gate and in my experience Toyota paint has been on the softer side for me.
 
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