Re: First viewing of Completion Ready
Great Conversation on the show. It's wonderful how social media works.
Excellent post. Excellent feedback GlazeMan81
Now I'm going to dissect your post and put
two sections you wrote that were separated by lots of great comments, suggestions and feedback together.
From the beginning of your post
Some points were made that it needs to be for the masses, and needs to make money. I did feel it was a scolding for how people entered their thoughts.
And then from the end of your post
Mike, I do not know you, but you seem like an upstanding and incredible guy. Social Media is public. While your comments may have been well deserved, I am not sure appropriate. I have never seen a "personality" chastise his core financial base. That is brave. While the show may be about new names, from the masses, the old names are still very important. They have been paying the bills and keeping the lights on with growth and loyalty. In a large part, due to you.
Are you mad at us? I am sorry if I was part of striking a nerve. I wrote this a week ago and sat on it. No need to tell me to re-read your note for its message. I got your points.
I re-read this entire thread and this is just
my guess but I think your comments above are referring to the last part of what I wrote in
post #27
Below is what I wrote and take a moment to read the portion I made purple.
Mike Phillips said:
This is the first season. As with any new TV show, it's a learning process to see what worked best. Everything about our show worked and somethings worked better than others.
Next comes tweaking and tweaking comes from feedback and that leads me to what I'm going to say next.
Feedback
There's a right way and a wrong way to give feedback.
I had to learn how to give feedback. I didn't know how to do it the right way without being taught by others that also had to learn how to do it the right way. Like most people, when I gave feedback 20 years ago I did it the wrong way. Because other people care enough to show me how to give feedback the right way I did what I've always done... I shared what I learned with others by writing an article about it.
Yes. I wrote an article on how to properly give feedback. Feedback is important but your feedback is
accepted better when it's presented with balance. And for most of you, I know your intentions are to provide helpful feedback because you care and you're genuinely nice people that would love to see our show be a success and I personally appreciate this.
I can assure everyone that has taken the time to post their feedback to this thread that their feedback is being seen and read by people in the TV world. I would also like to assure everyone that it's never too late to change the way you share feedback moving into the future. And to this point, here's my article on the correct way to give feedback.
A tip on giving constructive feedback...
So thank you to everyone that has participated in this thread and again... I can assure you that your feedback is appreciated and it is being seen and read.
I don't personally feel what I wrote is chastisement. I certainly didn't intend it to be chastisement.
I
write very carefully in the forum world. I think out everything I write and choose every single word I use. I think if anyone were to look at all my posts on this forum or any forum the one theme that ties them altogether is they are intended to help people. Most of what I write is to help people get a shiny car. Sometimes what I write is to help people in other ways, like I have an article on
how to write a great title for a thread.
The goal is to HELP people,
possibly new to discussion forums, on how to write a good title
because it is the title that all our stellar forum members
see and read and it's the title that determines if someone
>clicks< on the thread to read it and then answer the persons questions.
A great title will get great help. A poorly written title might not get any feedback at all.
Here's that article, has nothing to do with car detailing but helping others.
How to write a good title for your thread
The reason I included some information about what I learned from Hewlett-Packard about giving feedback was to help anyone giving feedback. I'm really good at taking negative feedback as I've received a lot of it over the years. So no worries there. But as I pointed out in what I wrote about feedback, OTHER PEOPLE read this and what you want is for them to read your feedback and take you seriously. That is the goal for most of you making a post in this thread - to give your feedback and have it matter.
So I wasn't chastising anyone just sharing that your feedback will be better appreciated if you can find some way to include what you didn't like but to also include what you did like. I don't have a history of chastising or scolding anyone in the 22 years I've been posting to the Internet. That's now how I am.
So apologies if that's how you took what I wrote but it's certainly not what I meant. My goal was to simply help by providing a tip I learned from someone else a long time ago that I think makes good sense and since learning the correct way to give feedback I practice it myself to this day.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this subject and moving forward, while I am very careful with my writing style I turn the dial up to 11 and do my best to make sure whatever it is I write is both helpful and clear.
Now onto some other comments you made...
What would be nice:
It would be interesting to know something about the people detailing, what their thoughts and concerns are. What are their thoughts as it progresses? Their thoughts are about what's going on... Is it always the same 'A' team, how do they get there? As one person mentioned, when the camera is on them, they seem stiff. They do not seem like guys working together, loose and having fun detailing. Nothing. Are they instructed to give the thousand yard stare into the chrome and paint?
Really?
Does Bob really fly in at the end of every show saying, "looks like I got here just in time!".
In summary
My criticism might be off. I only wish to make a point that I picked up on that others were echoing. I think anyway. We are not looking for full length documentary films on detailing technique. That's off base.
I would like to see entertainment that is believable. Even if it was not about detailing, I wouldn't buy into this format. It feels to contrived. It feels like a blatant sales pitch. Softening it would be nice.
Thanks for the feedback and suggestions, I can guarantee you your comments are being read. :xyxthumbs:
I do hope you are successful and that detailing keeps a show that gets better and better.
Thank you.
Every TV show goes through an evolution. You start with a clean sheet of paper and go from there. We are at the
beginning of the evolution.
Take Care and being real, I wish you good luck and your much deserved success for what you have personally done for the hobby. Hats off bro
Thank you again. I have invested my entire life into the car detailing industry starting out like everyone else washing and waxing mom and dad's cars and then traveling through a very winding road to where I'm at now working for Bob McKee at Autogeek. I'd like to close this post with this thought...
To date - no one else in this industry has taken the
risk to start a brand new TV show on
car care and
car detailing except for Bob McKee. Sure there's a financial reward for Bob due to the success of the show. But what Bob has done is benefiting the entire car care industry. The ratings for the first season of our show are up 25% in our time slots over last year. That's huge. It's even more significant that the ratings are up this strong with the 18 to 34 year old males.
If you're a member of this forum or even reading this post as a lurker, chances are very good that you already know a
LOT about proper car care and proper car detailing including paint correction, paint polishing and even cutting edge technology like ceramic and quarts paint coatings. The masses don't know any of these things.
What Bob McKee and this TV show is doing is raising the awareness and knowledge level of the average person on the topics of professional car detailing and this benefits everyone that details for money and even for fun and it also benefits any company in the car appearance industry.
Bob has done more for me and my career than anyone and for this I'm very grateful and he knows this. I come to work early, stay late and give 100% every minute of every day no matter what project I'm working on in the moment and I'm truly lucky and also blessed to be a part of Autogeek and Competition Ready.
And I like to share the blessing as that's also what I do. I have not taken an exact head count but I'll guess I've invited up to 100 other people to be a part of this TV show. I can't think of another show that has done this? And our production company gave them all
due credit with their names, history and even business names. I've also never seen this on any other show.
By all measures, our first season has been a complete success. It's also been a huge learning experience. Take my word for it.. we love your feedback because it's valuable for making changes. So thank you to everyone that has taken the time to voice their opinion in this thread and I encourage anyone that's been holding back to
>click< that button that says,
[Reply to Thread] and share your thoughts. Your comments, feedback and suggestions are definitely being read and considered.
Every TV show goes through an evolution.
We're at the very beginning of the evolution.
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