Flex XFE 7 vs Rupes 15 Mark II

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Today I received my new Flex XFE 7. Because of the next to 2 house trying to figure out what the rattling noise was only to find out it's normal because of the internal balancing system I didn't have time to work on any paint. Missed the little sticker on the plastic around the machine. I ended up compounding the rather large muffler we took out of my son's Genesis Coupe.

The first thing noticed is the Flex is about 2" shorter and about 3/4 a pound lighter, which to me gave the Flex a better feel and an easier tool to work with. I used the 5" plate and Rupes 6" yellow pads on both machines for testing. I used Optimum Hyper Compound for the tests today also if that matters.

I've never had a big issue with these machines stalling. I'm not saying I have perfect technique, or that the machines don't stall, just want to point out that it isn't a big issue for me. Trying to stall the machines by tilting and running on the curves on the muffler, including the sharp edges. At speed I found it difficult to stall either one in any situation. When dropping down to 4.5 I found the Rupes easier to stall than the Flex.

Both machines speed dials are well placed and easy to adjust during use.

As far as noise the Flex is considerably quieter at all speeds.

Unfortunately I wasn't really paying attention to the soft start. The Flex says it has soft start, I didn't really notice it. When going from the Flex to the Rupes I noticed the soft start on the Rupes. I'm sure the Flex has it, it's just not as slow a start as the Rupes.

Vibration wasn't an issue with eith machine. The Flex did have a little more vibration when run wide open. Keep in mind I was using exactly what the Rupes machine is designed to run. I will have to do more testing with different pad sizes and manufacturers to decide which is better overall.

Obviously I wasn't running either machine for an extended period of time, but after 2-3 minutes of non stop running I didn't notice anything that indicated heat was going to be a problem with either machine.

After today's testing personally I liked the Flex better, mainly because of the size and weight difference.

Sorry the side by side picture of the machines wouldn't load. You can see how well the muffler got polished including the very rounded edges. I realize this isn't the ideal test. I'll post more when I've had some time to work on some paint.


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Go team Flex.

So side by side not much difference to give a hoot?

How grimy was the pad after the shiny muffler was done?
 
looks like the flex is the clear winner here and worth the wait!
 
Thanks for the review Dave! :props: Just got mine too. Number 00073 :coolgleam: Unfortunately, it's 23 degrees out, so I won't be getting to really use it any time soon. It's good to hear your impression of it so far. From the little bit that I got to play with mine, I can say it feels similar to my PE14 and is quiet and smooth like you mentioned. I'm really thinking about getting the 5" backing plate due to my preference of smaller 5" and 5 1/2" pads. I'm hoping for good durability because this seems like it will fit in well with my 3401 and PE14. It's just so comfortable switching between each polisher. The ergonomics match. I'm looking forward to people really beating on these things to see if they got the guts of the other Flex machines.
 
Go team Flex.

So side by side not much difference to give a hoot?

How grimy was the pad after the shiny muffler was done?

6 year old muffler. That should give you an idea. They were pad. A couple rounds of the McKee's pad cleaner and they're usable again.
Not a lot of difference. I like the size, weight, and sound level of the Flex. I'll know more after trying different size and brands of pads. With the balancing system I would think the Flex would be better with the balancing system it has.
 
Nice. Weight and size is a big deal for wear and tear on the user. Less fatigue
 
The lake country thin pro lads work wonderfully on the XFE7 if you're looking for your first test! Having most of the other items in the flex lineup it's been hard to not buy one after the first time I used it for new car services I think it's the best buffer out there, if only they made a 21mm


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Being a similar machine,I wonder where the GG Boss15 falls in this group. I have all the Flex tools but the XFE 7. I just got the GG 15 before Xmas,hope I don't regret not waiting for the Flex. I didn't think the XFE was being rereleased that soon or I might have waited.
 
I currently have a 3401 Flex, very satisfied. What are the benefits to the new long stroke model vs. the 3401?

Can the new XFE use the pads as the 3401? (I currently use 5.5" CCS smart pads from Lake country).
 
Being a similar machine,I wonder where the GG Boss15 falls in this group. I have all the Flex tools but the XFE 7. I just got the GG 15 before Xmas,hope I don't regret not waiting for the Flex. I didn't think the XFE was being rereleased that soon or I might have waited.

I've got a G21, the Griot's are good machines. In the 15 I think the Rupes Mark II and Flex have a little more power. I believe the Griot's has more power that the Rupes ES, this is from reading I don't have any personal experience with the ES.

I currently have a 3401 Flex, very satisfied. What are the benefits to the new long stroke model vs. the 3401?

Can the new XFE use the pads as the 3401? (I currently use 5.5" CCS smart pads from Lake country).

The long throw machines take far less downward pressure to accomplish the desired results. Also less effort to guide the machine where you want it to go.
Don't get me wrong, the 3401 is a great machine. IMO you have to muscle the machine more than the long throws. In my situation I didn't have any problem muscling it. I would consider my technique good on the machine, I could run it one handed. With my back problems I can compound/polish about twice as long with the long throw machines vs the 3401. I ended up selling the 3401.
These opinions are based on my personal experiences and my particular situation. Not trying to start the whole 3401 vs long throw thing again.
If your interested in the long throw machines I would try to find someone close by who owns one and see if they will let you spend some time using it and maybe give you some pointers.
 
I currently have a 3401 Flex, very satisfied. What are the benefits to the new long stroke model vs. the 3401?

Can the new XFE use the pads as the 3401? (I currently use 5.5" CCS smart pads from Lake country).

I've got a lot of 5.5 CCS pads for my PC. I haven't tried them on the long throw yet. I'm sure they will work, I'll try to give them a shot this week also and let you know.
 
Thanks for sharing what you found during the comparison of these two machines. This is a topic brought up quite often.

I too like the attributes of the FLEX versus the RUPES
 
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