Flex XFE VS GG Boss 15 VS Rupes 15 Mark II

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I currently Have The Flex XFE i was wondering if the rupes or boss were more powerful
 
I have the long throw flex i was just wondering if the other two had more power
 
some have said the G15/21 have more power than the rupes mk2 and vice versa as well as smoothness/vibration. if you look at the video below the rupes had more vibration than both the flex and GG long throws..
 
Thanks In the video it Looks like the boss has more power also
 
FYI, if you ever have a problem with your flex their repair facility (Powerhouse Distributing) is located in Omaha, NE...
 
i came across a comment that joe@nextleveldetail posted on one of his YT videos (video below)...


Next Level Auto Detail 3months ago
"The Rupes MK2 does beat the Boss in overall OPMS its not by much like 100-200 , however i find using the mk2 for a extended period of time, it tends to get hot, that might be due to the 500w motor. the mk2 still has the same power wattage wise as the mark 1 machines, however they still managed to make that motor translate into more power. the Boss machines have a 900w motor, and that means that less stress is being ran into the unit due to the large motor. the Boss machines are all "stress tested" and talking with the product developer it was ran for 3 straight days non-stop and it only ran 93 degrees in temp.

I have Rupes tools, the mk2 15, 21, mini, and the mark 1 tools. I prefer my boss tools, i do not like the plastic grip on the rupes polishers, doing a 10 hour paint correction is all about comfort and staying focused and i feel that the boss helps with that. Can i not get the job done with the Rupes tools? not saying that , yes i would be able to get the job done, i just prefer the Boss if that makes sense.

the only polisher i dont own is the flex finisher the 15mm da so i have real life experience with every tool. so take it for whats it worth."


someone posted a comment about a problem (in the same video above) with their rupes mk2 stalling with barely any pressure applied...
 
Thanks For All the info i think you just gave me a reason to buy the boss lol
 
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keep in mind that Jeff Brown (in the above video) used to work for meguiars and helped develop the DAMF system that we all know & love and knows a thing or two about polishers and liquids in the way they work and perform among other things. he also developed the BOSS System along side the wonderful & talented people over at Griot's Garage (btw, a few other megs employees are over at GG as well). as jeff said in one of his videos, "we're just getting started, we got our foot on the gas and you guys need to stay tune"...

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The mk2 Rupes, and Boss machines do have more power than the Flex XFE.

However at speed 6 they all run similar OPM wise. I am sure one machine out performs one in OPM wise.

The real difference to me is at speed 4.

Speed 4 the mk2 and boss is typically what i polish/compound at. With the finisher i have to use 5-6.

The XFE is the smoothest of the 3. Virtually no vibration.

Each machine has its upsides and downsides.

All 3 are fantastic quality machines.

And there is no wrong choice.

The most important thing is to be comfortable for your polishing experience.

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Yes The flex is Very Smooth I have a Rupes 21 Mark ii and i just do not like the feel of it especially with a 5 or 6 inch pad
 
VISITOR said:
some have said the G15/21 have more power than the rupes mk2 and vice versa as well as smoothness/vibration. if you look at the video below the rupes had more vibration than both the flex and GG long throws..
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In this video pay attention to the watch.

With the flex it is not shaking or vibrating.

It is the smoothest of the 3. I have no tried it yet with the 5 inch plate. Looking forward to it.

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I agree with joe on being comfortable after long hrs. I used the XFE on the Adam Carolla ep of CR, and while it is a great and very capable machine I just didn't like the head grip. I tried holding it in difference positions but still could never get used to it. my flex 3401 is another issue, I can polish with that all day, granted it beats the hell out of me it can be held all day. I just got rid of my bigfoot 21 and while it didn't vibrate nearly as much as in the video that was posted I again could not deal with the head grip, it seems just a tap bit to narrow for me. now comes the G15 LOVED it was it perfect...no not on the least but it is more comfortable for me to hold and polish with for long hrs and I have now upgraded to the g21 because well...why not. all the machines are all amazing and can all correct basically anything but at the end of the day when im going this hrs on end its about comfort. to this day my favorite and most comfortable machine is the GG6, it fits perfectly
 
The only real difference isn't even related to performance, as they're all very similar.

Both Rupes and Flex engineer, and manufaturer not only these detailing tools, but a myriad of tools for other industries. They have complete control, and oversight of the construction of their tools.

Griot's legacy of customer service, product performance, and innovation more than makes up for outsourcing the construction of their tools, which happens often in other industries.

Regardless, if you purchase here at Autogeek, there's an additional layer of customer support that might be difficult to come by elsewhere.
 
dlc95 said:
The only real difference isn't even related to performance, as they're all very similar.

Both Rupes and Flex engineer, and manufaturer not only these detailing tools, but a myriad of tools for other industries. They have complete control, and oversight of the construction of their tools.

Griot's legacy of customer service, product performance, and innovation more than makes up for outsourcing the construction of their tools, which happens often in other industries.

Regardless, if you purchase here at Autogeek, there's an additional layer of customer support that might be difficult to come by elsewhere.
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X2 on the customer support at AG!
 
dlc95 said:
The only real difference isn't even related to performance, as they're all very similar.

Both Rupes and Flex engineer, and manufaturer not only these detailing tools, but a myriad of tools for other industries. They have complete control, and oversight of the construction of their tools.

Griot's legacy of customer service, product performance, and innovation more than makes up for outsourcing the construction of their tools, which happens often in other industries.

Regardless, if you purchase here at Autogeek, there's an additional layer of customer support that might be difficult to come by elsewhere.
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If im not mistaken...GG designed, engineered and tested the BOSS polishers to their specs as well as choosing the components and had control of what exactly on how they wanted it to be. Its not like they just slapped a label on it which is different IMO...
 
while AG has the best CS ive every experienced before, I have had to send my polishers back to Griots and it was 100% hassle free. I think I can actually say it was the easiest and smoothest exchange ive ever made. heck ive had more issues exchanging a miss ordered burger at a fast food chain then I had with Griots.
 
VISITOR said:
If im not mistaken...GG designed, engineered and tested the BOSS polishers to their specs as well as choosing the components and had control of what exactly on how they wanted it to be. Its not like they just slapped a label on it which is different IMO...
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A little bit different, but nowhere near the same as owning and operating the design and manufacturing process.

If I remember correctly, Rupes was able to extract that 30% extra power from the same motor, simply by "tweaking" it. Flex just recently improved the XFE7, and it was all done in house - from design to construction.

My dad was a project manager in auto plants ranging from GM, Chrysler, Ford, to Toyota. Things had to be done on the fly sometimes, and because the company ran the manufacturing process, the changes were able to be made with minimal lead time. These things had to be done to get the quality on point. The idea is that they would rather the product work properly and heartily before it leaves the door. These companies are not in the practice of taking a car back, and sending out a new one if it goes down. However that would be amazing if they did!

It's his involvement as an engineer, and plant project manager that probably contribute to my affinity for Rupes and Flex. He's worked the line, done pipe fitting, and engineering in Pontiac, at Pontiac Motors, did outsource engineering, sales, and project management. A lot of my family worked for GM. I have that mentality ingrained in me, and it really is just a personal thing.

Nothing against Griots. I love what I've had of theirs (aside from the 1st Gen. GG6). Their customer support is flawless, their innovation tenacious, quality is state of the art. They just don't actually construct their own tools - at this time. That could all change in the future.
 
Recently I wrote this article,

FLEX 3401 or RUPES? - A question I get asked a lot! -Mike Phillips

apples_oranges_01.jpg


And the point of the above article was that it's not a fair comparison to compare a gear-driven orbital polisher to any free spinning orbital polishers because the are so different, kind of like apples are very different than oranges.


Next I was going to start a thread like this one I'm typing in,

Flex XFE VS GG Boss 15 VS Rupes 15 Mark II



That is an article that is about comparing apples to apples or oranges to oranges because these three machines are very similar in that they are all free spinning 15mm orbital polishers.


You beat me to it but wait till you see my pictures...


:)
 
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