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just got foam gun and want to try megs gold class in it any body used it .
 
Megs GC is horrible at foaming.

DP extreme foam works best
then DG 901
 
Another niec soaps that work well with a foam gun are Poorboy's SS&S, and Optimum.
 
Chemical Guys Citrus wash & gloss foams very well, very concentrated
 
Same here got my foam gun on monday but my truck is clean. They sent me a free sample of the DP extreme foam soap plus I got the ** Citrus soap so I will compare over the weekend. Quick question though after I foam the car up I let it sit for a while then spray it all off, then wash the car by hand?
 
Smith2287 said:
Same here got my foam gun on monday but my truck is clean. They sent me a free sample of the DP extreme foam soap plus I got the ** Citrus soap so I will compare over the weekend. Quick question though after I foam the car up I let it sit for a while then spray it all off, then wash the car by hand?
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Check out the Pinnacle videos (the chapter on washing) for some examples of how to use the foam gun.
 
Personally I don't let the soap sit too long (maybe a minute), you're spraying a concentrated amount of soap on the paint. It can and will start (if left too long) to break down you wax/sealant given enough time. I use my FG to basically wash of any sand/grit and let it start to break down crap on the paint. I do let it sit forever in the wheel wheels and (on mustangs) the black plastic gas tank cover that you can see in the back. If I was doing a complete break down and striping wax then sure let it sit and do it's thing.
 
wytstang said:
Personally I don't let the soap sit too long (maybe a minute), you're spraying a concentrated amount of soap on the paint. It can and will start (if left too long) to break down you wax/sealant given enough time. I use my FG to basically wash of any sand/grit and let it start to break down crap on the paint. I do let it sit forever in the wheel wheels and (on mustangs) the black plastic gas tank cover that you can see in the back. If I was doing a complete break down and striping wax then sure let it sit and do it's thing.
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I agree. I mostly do a presoak when I doing a full detail on a clients car. This would include clay and paint correction.
 
wytstang said:
Personally I don't let the soap sit too long (maybe a minute), you're spraying a concentrated amount of soap on the paint. It can and will start (if left too long) to break down you wax/sealant given enough time. I use my FG to basically wash of any sand/grit and let it start to break down crap on the paint. I do let it sit forever in the wheel wheels and (on mustangs) the black plastic gas tank cover that you can see in the back. If I was doing a complete break down and striping wax then sure let it sit and do it's thing.
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Can you explain the "concentrated amount of soap" comment? From what I have read here, if you put say 2 oz of soap and 2 oz of water in the reservoir and then set the metering bar to 2 oz / gal isn't that the normal amount being dispensed? Maybe you use more to increase suds?

As I read your procedure, you:
1. foam entire vehicle, let soak for a few min
2. rinse (exc. wheels)
3. re-foam sections as you wash car normally (??)

Do you keep a separate suds and rinse bucket too?
 
Bunky said:
Can you explain the "concentrated amount of soap" comment?
Do you keep a separate suds and rinse bucket too?
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The foam is almost all soap with little water and air mixed in (<-creates foam). No different then mixing 1 oz soap with 1 gal water in a bucket then taking the foam created in the bucket and setting down on the paint. I still use the 2 bucket method.
From what I have read here, if you put say 2 oz of soap and 2 oz of water in the reservoir and then set the metering bar to 2 oz / gal isn't that the normal amount being dispensed? Maybe you use more to increase suds?
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For 2 oz of soap you need 6-8 oz water in the reservoir (I've read using warm water increasing foam output haven't tried it yet) as per instructions;Yes that is the normal amount being dispense but the foam is still left sitting on the paint with some water left over. I hope I'm explaining this right if not maybe some one else can chime in and clarify it a bit better.
 
wytstang said:
The foam is almost all soap with little water and air mixed in (<-creates foam). No different then mixing 1 oz soap with 1 gal water in a bucket then taking the foam created in the bucket and setting down on the paint. I still use the 2 bucket method.

For 2 oz of soap you need 6-8 oz water in the reservoir (I've read using warm water increasing foam output haven't tried it yet) as per instructions;Yes that is the normal amount being dispense but the foam is still left sitting on the paint with some water left over. I hope I'm explaining this right if not maybe some one else can chime in and clarify it a bit better.
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Thanks. I guess I need to understand how the thing really works but then I used my foam gun for the first time yesterday so your posting was timely. I used duragloss 901 which produced a modest amount of suds (about 2 oz soap with 3 oz water) using a 2 oz / gal. setting.

After playing with it, I foamed up the car, rinsed it quickly, then foamed sections and basically washed normally. I just shot foam into my mitt in a bucket to suds it up and had a rinse bucket. I guess I need to do more reading.
 
You can wait about a minute before rinsing, when i say to long I'm saying maybe 5 minutes (sorry for not clarifying that). The most I would let it sit (this is just me) is 3 min max, unless I am striping the wax/sealant and starting over I'll let it sit for 5 minutes without thinking about it.
 
One more question. What setting do you have the metering bar set at ( oz per gallon)? Wide open?

I do agree on not letting it sit too long. From the videos, I cannot see how suds left on a vehicle more than 5 minutes will not start drying before you get there unless you are washing very very fast. The instructions with my foam gun were very generic...said choose what you want.


Thanks.
 
Moved it to the far right and then came back 2 holes I believe. I like to play around with the setting during a rinse just to see what I get as far as foam goes.
 
When I use my foam gun I have the metering module set to the last setting for maximum foam (DP Xtreme Soap even says to in the directions I believe). First I rinse the car, then foam up a section, wash that section, and rinse. I use a seperate rinse bucket for my mitt, then move on to the next section and repeat. I tried the pre-soak and saw absolutely no benefit from it except wasting product. I also mix 2oz of soap with about 3 oz of water.

I really dont believe that you have a very concentrated amount of soap and in fact I think it could be argued that the more foam you have the better because the foam and suds are what help "lift" the dirt from the paint so you don't marr the paint while washing. I know if you use too much soap, ala more than the directions call for, then you could run the risk of it being too harsh and stripping away lsp, but using all the foam you have per the given instructions I think is harmless.

I've washed my cars many times with this method and have yet to see a degradation in my lsp due to too much foam.
 
wolfpacker92 said:
I really dont believe that you have a very concentrated amount of soap and in fact I think it could be argued that the more foam you have the better because the foam and suds are what help "lift" the dirt from the paint so you don't marr the paint while washing.
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You are right it is not very concentrated. I realized a simple concept - as long as the metering is set to at least the number of ounces of car wash added you are at "normal" wash concentration. Thus, if you use only 2 oz of car wash but at the 4 / 6 / 12 setting you are definitely less than normal car wash. The amount of water you add to the container will dilute it even more as measured by what comes out of the nozzle.
 
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