For Manual Drivers, I thought this was funny!

Its going to be an interesting test between the new 911 (991) and new C7 Corvette Z51 and their new 7 spd manuals, you know Motor Trend or Automobile magazine are sure to do a test of them, I mean they've taken the manual to yet another gear, 7 and both still offer 3 pedals, thank you Porsche and Chevrolet!
 
Klasse Act said:
Its going to be an interesting test between the new 911 (991) and new C7 Corvette Z51 and their new 7 spd manuals, you know Motor Trend or Automobile magazine are sure to do a test of them, I mean they've taken the manual to yet another gear, 7 and both still offer 3 pedals, thank you Porsche and Chevrolet!
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Cough... when we start doing comparisons like these, it's like comparing filet mignon to hot dogs, Cristal champagne to Budweiser, and cashmere to denim.

Yes, they can be compared... but they're for two entirely different types of customers, with two different levels of sophistication, in two entirely different income brackets, with entirely different priorities. One placing a huge priority on refinement and finish, and the other putting a priority on the bottom-line and performance. They both have their strengths... they both have their value. But they will never be cross-shopped by the same customer. They will, however, be mercilessly debated on the "enthusiast" forums by those who have never driven either. Which is why I think the argument is mostly lame.

I consider myself an auto enthusiast... but these debates have me cringing anytime I open up a comparison article or video. No words can articulate the tactile sensations of these vehicles, so specs are all anyone ever goes by... which I don't believe does either vehicle any good.

It's always just a debate on price, and on skid pad ratings, and horsepower...

Nobody understands the value of cashmere until going into a store and trying it on, or the virtues of paying $40-$50 for a steak until they taste it. The debate would be ended permanently the moment someone actually drove themselves from their keyboard to the Porsche dealership and test drove a 991 Turbo (yes, I know it hasn't been released yet)... or borrowed one from a friend... but it doesn't seem like anyone wants to actually have a discussion on that level. Which makes the whole discussion completely pointless.
 
My wife (girlfriend at the time) spent many miles in the passenger seat of my 6spd. C4. One day I attempted to teach her how to drive a manual. As soon as I mentioned the clutch she said " you mean there's a foot thing?" Lesson over.
 
My husband drives manual and I still don't let him drive my car :xyxthumbs:
 
Your right Profits, the person that buys the Porsche is different from the one whom buys the Corvette, different person, different needs and much different income bracket. I know the C7 is supposed to be a much better car than the C6 was and I bet it is....it had better be! Watching an episode of 5th Gear last year they tested the limited edition 427 convertable and squeaks and rattles and gaps were appauling! Sure it goes like stink but there's more to buying/owning an icon tghan speed, this is where the 911 comes into play and to be fair, it has to be when you factor in cost, get what you pay for.

Now as far as steaks go, well I used to treat myself and the ex to a Ruth's Chris dinner once a year and I can assure anyone whom hasn't had the experience that there's a difference, the 911 tastes so good!

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Profits said:
Cough... when we start doing comparisons like these, it's like comparing filet mignon to hot dogs, Cristal champagne to Budweiser, and cashmere to denim.

Yes, they can be compared... but they're for two entirely different types of customers, with two different levels of sophistication, in two entirely different income brackets, with entirely different priorities. One placing a huge priority on refinement and finish, and the other putting a priority on the bottom-line and performance. They both have their strengths... they both have their value. But they will never be cross-shopped by the same customer. They will, however, be mercilessly debated on the "enthusiast" forums by those who have never driven either. Which is why I think the argument is mostly lame.



It's always just a debate on price, and on skid pad ratings, and horsepower...

Nobody understands the value of cashmere until going into a store and trying it on, or the virtues of paying $40-$50 for a steak until they taste it. The debate would be ended permanently the moment someone actually drove themselves from their keyboard to the Porsche dealership and test drove a 991 Turbo (yes, I know it hasn't been released yet)... or borrowed one from a friend... but it doesn't seem like anyone wants to actually have a discussion on that level. Which makes the whole discussion completely pointless.
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I find the incessant Clarksonian need of people to "peg" other people by their choices of/in:
Vehicles, clothes, foods, (and Mates, homes, any amenities, I'll add)...to be no more than a fool's errand.

Mates:
-People find their "mates" in all of the above categories.
Some of the "matings" are short term---some long term.
Perhaps: "Adjustment/Transitions/Transmissions" ?

-Transmitting:
At a recent gathering, all of us "chick magnets" were discussing our animal magnetism/prowess
with the Ladies we've met along our pathways in Life.

One guy asked the following question: 'Wonder who married all of the ugly girls in school'?
I mused for a few moments and then reminded everyone that even Rosie O'Donnell had, somehow: "Mated-up"!
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Profits said:
I consider myself an auto enthusiast... but these debates have me cringing anytime I open up a comparison article or video.

^^^That's right!^^^...True-Car-Guys do not discriminate!!!
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Profits said:
No words can articulate the tactile sensations of these vehicles, so specs are all anyone ever goes by... which I don't believe does either vehicle any good.
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^^^Haptics is Hallowed!!^^^

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Bob
 
It was called the "man pedal" this weekend by our group walking around at the Another Level show in Shaumburg Illinois this past weekend. Luckily most import cars have the "man pedal" and those that don't, well its usually for a good reason, like the "modded" GT-R that was behind us as we were pulling in. On the windshield is said 8.9 @186 mph, the rear had a parachute....oh did I mention the car had plates AND was actually driven to the event?

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OH WOW!!!!

I'm all but speechless. So many memories. Watching that vid, you have removed about 50 years from my life.

THANK YOU!

Bill
 
Can some please explain to me what's going on in that video, 2 shifters?

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BillE said:
OH WOW!!!!

I'm all but speechless. So many memories. Watching that vid, you have removed about 50 years from my life.

THANK YOU!

Bill
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No, THANK YOU for being a member of this forum hi-way hero.
And thank you scrubs147

Flash Gordon said:
Is there no clutch on one of those things. I never saw his left foot move
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It's called floating the gears.
In a car, the tranny is synchronized.
In a big rig, the driver is the synchronizer...no clutch necessary except to start and to stop.

Klasse Act said:
Can some please explain to me what's going on in that video, 2 shifters?

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Cowboy truckers and the companies that use to employ them made these vehicles obsolete. Nowadays mainly used in heavy haul and dump vehicles.
What we used to do was spec out a truck with high horsepower , low rear ends, tall tires ( 11R 24.5's) and endless gears... 4 x4, 5x4, and 6x4.

This gave the hand the ability to actually upshift on a grade depending on the % and rear end ratio.
On flat ground, this setup allowed one to travel into the triple digits on the speedo (3.55/rears). Never got past 127 mph on my 140 speedo...kind of humbling when you're toting near 22 tons in the wagon/ nearly 80k gross weight.
848 miles across Texas in less than 10 hours on average...back in the day.

On graduated inclines, gave the driver the ability to either maintain momentum, or at the least to not fall too far off (4:10 rears).

On steep grades, one would of course lose momentum, and would have to go back through the gears...but then gradually outpull all other 18's of similar though single transmission set-up/weight (3:70 rears) before reaching the summit.

If you've ever been on a isolated stretch running 80+ and an 18 blew your doors off like you were sitting still?

To answer our question:

5 speed main box with a 4 speed auxiliary tranny.
If you notice he started in second, ran through the auxilliary gears, went to third, and put the aux in first. Then proceeded to shift up in the aux. until he was ready for fourth in the main.
But if you look at the speed (judge the oncoming traffic), he probably never got past 45mph.

Oh yeah...the gauge that the cameraman keeps in the frame is the Turbo Boost...measured in psi.

Now to see the video of the W-9 with the three sticks shifting 18 forward gears.


[video=youtube_share;8lEYaTvvq4g"]Kenworth W900L - 3 Stick Shifting - YouTube[/video]


This is a show of skills.
 
BlackHawk said:
^^ oh....my god....
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TEN-FO fa sho :props:
That's a real deal Holyfield.

Ain't quite figured it out yet...4:19-6:09 and all I got is that the middle stick is the main. This hand is skipping gears...especially on the down shift. Must be empty.
I read the comments about range selector and splitter...and I can hear the air splitter...if so, then no aux. tranny.
Hopefully scrubs147 will give some insight.
 
127 mph in a truck, were the tires even rated to hold that speed.....for any amount of time?

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