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Forum Rules Update


For some time the forum rules have not been enforced as well as they should have.

As a reminder...


Please read the forum rules and abide by them.

Thank you. :)


Forum Rules


The purpose of Autogeekonline.com is for detailing discussion, providing a place for likeminded auto "Geeks" to share knowledge and partake in fellowship.

1. The AutogeekOnline discussion forum is exclusively sponsored by Autogeek.com. Product discussion should be limited to products that are available from Autogeek.com and PBMA's family of websites.

Links or recommendations to competing products and companies that are not available through Autogeek.com will be deleted.

Repeated linking and recommendations of products not available through Autogeek.com may result in a permanent ban. Moderators have the right to edit any posts that contain links, recommendations or other information pertaining to competing companies that are not associated with Autogeek.com.


2. No arguing with Moderators or Administrators.

3. You are welcome to disagree but you must be polite.

4. No bashing any company or their products. No bashing other people. If you can't say anything nice about someone, then don't say anything at all, this also includes talking to others in a demeaning manner.

REMEMBER this forum is here for those that are new to detailing and those that have been doing this for years. We expect that you treat everyone with respect no matter what their level of detailing is. We all had to start somewhere.


5. Forum Nicknames and Avatars must be family friendly, they cannot even hint towards anything raunchy, sleazy, sexual or inappropriate. When in doubt we will err on the side of caution and ask you to choose a different Avatar or Nickname.

6. E-mail addresses cannot be used as a forum nickname.

7. If any thread gets off topic it will be at the discretion of the moderator to close and/or move it to moderators corner.

8. Keep language "G Rated", this includes insinuations. If you wouldn't say it in front of your grandparents, your parents or your children, then you shouldn't probably be posting to the AutogeekOnline forum.

9. Self-promoting clickable links are not allowed in your posts. Detailers can put a link to their company in their signature, as long as they are not selling anything but their services.

10. Moderators have the right to move any thread that does not follow within the AGO rules to moderators corner.

11. Only one account per member! The only conceivable reason for multiple accounts would be for fraudulent activity. You will be banned for this action immediately.

12. Continuously breaking the rules to disrupt the online community will result in you being banned from the forum.

13. No Commercial sales, personal sales or samples from competing companies. One post trying to promote and you will have banned yourself permanently. This is a private forum not an open forum. No links to outside companies for sales either.

14. All messages posted to AutogeekOnline become the property of Autogeek.net. and may not be deleted without first obtaining permission.

15. No personal attacks toward members or non-members will be tolerated.




Exceptions:
We stand behind our Moderators, if our Moderators think you're causing problems for the online community they are empowered to take whatever action necessary to correct the problem.


Rule Infraction Enforcement
Everyone makes mistakes however; pushing the house rules to the limit will not be tolerated. Therefore, chronic and severe violators of AGO rules will be warned, put on a Queue (time-out), or completely banned based on the severity of the violation. We will apply rule enforcement as follows:

1st time offense - Warning: Minor rule infractions, you will be sent a PM or email by a moderator pointing out the infraction. There will be no action at this time outside of the warning.

2nd time offense - Queue: This will give you a 24 hour up to a two week forum break. This will occur after you have been warned previously or if you are involved with bashing of other members, being a hot-head, spamming, bad language, posting inappropriate materials.

3rd and last time - Banned: You will have effectively banned yourself if you are a repeat offender or if you are involved with any of the following....blatant spamming/selling, attacking forum moderators, pornography, racial/sexist/threatening posts, trolling, fraud, liable/slander, multiple accounts, shills.


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So would that include posting threads about cheap Harbor Freight DA's on this forum or is that okay? Or recommending buying GG6's from Advance Auto?
 
@custmsprty - Regarding GG6.

1. The AutogeekOnline discussion forum is exclusively sponsored by Autogeek.com. Product discussion should be limited to products that are available from Autogeek.com and PBMA's family of websites.


Hmmmm! The GG6 is available at AGO & other retailers, so I would guess it's okay to discuss other retailers, offering what AGO sells. Or If AGO & affiliates DID NOT SELL GG6, & you touted it you would be in violation. Am I reading this correctly???????

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year

Admin. - This could really become crazy. Somebody advises IPA wipedown, & AGO does not sell IPA, is this a violation?
 
So would that include posting threads about cheap Harbor Freight DA's on this forum or is that okay? Or recommending buying GG6's from Advance Auto?

Both are not allowed--believe me I know.
 
Are detailers who post in show & shine are going to be careful with the banners in their shops if its advertising a product autogeek doesn't carry?
 
This is a great idea to enforce these House Rules. As we all know the forum is a great place to search and read how to info and read great write ups. There is a cost to maintain a forum and pay employees who are always courteous to customers. I want this forum to remain active. I was active in another forum that went down due to the owners neglect and really miss that forum still.
 
You can talk about the GG6 but I think it should be PAINFULLY obviously you can't encourage someone to buy it elsewhere... don't you think? Seems to me the thing they are trying to crack down on is telling people on their forum to go buy something somewhere else or buy something that they don't sell right Ricorocks & Custmsprty?
 
@custmsprty -

Admin. - This could really become crazy. Somebody advises IPA wipedown, & AGO does not sell IPA, is this a violation?

AGO does sell IPA

I'd it OK to mention that the price is 6x what it is at Walgreen's?
 
I just hope these Rules don't make their way over to Autopia

I have always enjoyed the openness of Autopia and the freedom to disagree
 
Your house, your rules.
This is by far the best auto detail related forum.
AutoGeek store and forums do a fantastic job.

Keep this in mind.
It is the fact that the rules have been relaxed on the specific subject of product discussion, and suggestions to products, at times not offered by AutoGeek that has directly contributed to the growth of this forum, and the growing sales at AutoGeek.
This is what has brought both professional credibility, and "street cred" to this forum community.

I certainly agree that any overt and pushy discussion of non-AutoGeek products, and posting weblinks to competing vendors or competing forums, is an obvious breaking of not only the written rules, but the spirit of the rules.
At the same time, it is impossible to not have mention of various lines of products and tools that many patrons here grew up with.
Whether it be a passing reference, or a direct comparison, AutoGeek is still a new school place, in an old school profession, full of old school auto detailers.

So, I support the idea of enforcing the spirit of the rules, and the letter of the rules when things get out of hand, as there is a time and place for that.
I would encourage the professional staff here at AutoGeek forums to use discretion and common sense when choosing to be heavy handed with the rules.
 
Your house, your rules.
This is by far the best auto detail related forum.
AutoGeek store and forums do a fantastic job.

Keep this in mind.
It is the fact that the rules have been relaxed on the specific subject of product discussion, and suggestions to products, at times not offered by AutoGeek that has directly contributed to the growth of this forum, and the growing sales at AutoGeek.
This is what has brought both professional credibility, and "street cred" to this forum community.

I certainly agree that any overt and pushy discussion of non-AutoGeek products, and posting weblinks to competing vendors or competing forums, is an obvious breaking of not only the written rules, but the spirit of the rules.
At the same time, it is impossible to not have mention of various lines of products and tools that many patrons here grew up with.
Whether it be a passing reference, or a direct comparison, AutoGeek is still a new school place, in an old school profession, full of old school auto detailers.

So, I support the idea of enforcing the spirit of the rules, and the letter of the rules when things get out of hand, as there is a time and place for that.
I would encourage the professional staff here at AutoGeek forums to use discretion and common sense when choosing to be heavy handed with the rules.

You summarized what i've tried to write several times but ended up deleting due to the passive aggressiveness of my writing. :) The tone used in the announcement was a little strong and aggressive in my opinion. I agree with the spirit of what was trying to be communicated, as well as the spirit of the rules.
 
I just hope these Rules don't make their way over to Autopia

I have always enjoyed the openness of Autopia and the freedom to disagree

They have in a way, Autopia is not what the original Autopia used to be but we can always move on if we don't like the rules. So if you are here just follow the rules. The main goal of a forum like this is to learn how to maintain a swirl free finish so product recommendations are secondary - most products today are very good. It is usually the user that is at fault not the product. Plus there is pm if needed, I don't think that is moderated.
 
I just hope these Rules don't make their way over to Autopia

I have always enjoyed the openness of Autopia and the freedom to disagree

Autopia is a much more open forum where you can discuss other products. AG bought this site for that very reason. If a product comes up with a lot of interest, this is how AG finds out about it and will more than likely carry that product.

Your statement about the freedom to disagree is untrue, after all AG is not Red China..read rule number 3.
 
Autopia is a much more open forum where you can discuss other products.

I received a PM from their super moderator yesterday that was so disturbing that I actually asked him to ban me for life which i am sure made him very happy. BTW, he made it clear that "autopia" that we all enjoyed is no longer. So there you have it. I guess you can mention brands that they don't sell, but he also made it very clear that he had enough of me talking about OCP. Well what can I do if every detail that I do gets Opti Coated? Anyway, this forum is pretty free, and of course a business, so we just need to respect their rules, after all AG is paying for the forum and not us.
 
So there you have it. I guess you can mention brands that they don't sell


That doesn't make any sense. I thought the whole purpose of this was to get people to stop mentioning brands they don't sell.
 
I learned a lot from AG forum members and Mike Phiilips, and I'd support in the form of product purchases if the shipping was reasonable. But if the content starts getting weak, I have no reason to come back here.

I've been a member of many forums.. almost all have been layed to rest with the creation of Facebook discussion groups. If the rules get too "Nazi", i have a feeling the same will happen here.
 
It's funny but several products that PBMG sells now were once banned from being discussed here. Black fire and chemical guys are only two examples of detailers liking those products enough to keep discussing them here. Those very same products are now amazingly acceptable now.
 
I am very new to AGO. I can completely understand things like no linking to competitors. I did however find this forum by searching about info on a polisher not sold by AGO. I have since bought a little over $200 in product from here. I know in comparison to some that is a drop in the bucket, but for me and online ordering that is a large sum.
I do have a question. I see posts where people are showing off their excellent work. They list their steps and products used. Some of these products are not offered by AGO, and some are. Some of the products you have to be an authorized installer to even get them. Is this against the rules, and if so will we have to say something like "Coating : Not offered by AGO"?
Please understand I'm not complaining, just want to know how strict this is going to be before I post and screw up, and also point out the open product discussion, within reason of course, does bring in more business.
 
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