Garry dean's conventional soap car wash method

Mach1USMC said:
The same argument would apply on an extremely dirty car with the 2 bucket method. Bottom line, if you need to break out the pressure washer/foam lance either method will work.
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Ever car I can not do a rinseless wash I foam every time and then do the 2 bucket.
 
It is all about better marketing and getting the message out.

Gary used common practices (using a pressure washer, pre-soaking all towels in a bucket, switching towels after each swipe, rinseless washing product) and combined them in a fairly straight forward video that some converted some disbelievers of rinseless washing.

People have been using a single mitt in a 2BM wash method safely (grit guards made it better) so not sure how one can claim any process is really the safest wash method.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I don't know why you guys keep attributing this method to Garry Dean. Just because it was invented before Youtube doesn't mean it wasn't invented. Bill D who is on Autopia Forums invented this method with wool mitts many years ago and posted about it on the other Autopia in June 2005: "I've eliminated my buckets altogether as I use the foam gun and just reach for new, clean mitts during the wash session."
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How many mitts do you typically use? I use a foam gun and would like to switch to this method. Thanks
 
I think its ok to give Gary D a break (and a plug). He's just trying to get his name out there and sell his stuff. He's seems to be a very good detailer. If he can get people to call it a GDWM ,and sell them the supplies, more power to him.

Honestly, I kind of envy him. He's working for himself, doing something he likes and selling solid products with his name on it. I just work for a big company doing a job I'm not crazy about.
 
Yep, he's an excellent marketer and has a good personality. I've seen some of his videos. He's very convincing.
 
swanicyouth said:
I think its ok to give Gary D a break (and a plug). He's just trying to get his name out there and sell his stuff. He's seems to be a very good detailer. If he can get people to call it a GDWM ,and sell them the supplies, more power to him.

Honestly, I kind of envy him. He's working for himself, doing something he likes and selling solid products with his name on it. I just work for a big company doing a job I'm not crazy about.
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+1

one day...
 
I didnt even know who Garry Dean was until maybe a week or 2 ago.
I know many have spoken about his WW Method and whatever method hes got.

I wasted 10 mins of my time and watched one of his videos, and all i can think to myself is like, wouldnt this be something a NORMAL detailer's would do with the correct common sense....? I mean how else can you possibly do it?

But anyways, yes hes probably not the FIRST person thought of this method or used it, but he did make a video out of it and what not, so props to him for that.
But man what i DID NOT KNOW was he has his own site selling his "Juices" which i think is completely a rip off.... and the names... are weird.....

I am not so much into waterless washing, but if i do use it or believe the company that invents the product, i'd go with Optimum.... simply just because I BELIEVE they are the first and the best that brought the waterless products in detailing.
 
Mach1USMC said:
THIS EXACTLY- it's about preserving the paint, not washing the towles. You gotta do laundry regardless so what's a few more towels? Especially when you can save time, water, money etc?
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I will agree that it is all about the paint.

Saying that this method is cheaper and faster is debatable.

8 towels for a single wash, doing 2 cars twice a week is 32 towels @ Garry Dean price of $10/towel, that's $320 just for towels. Versus 4 chenille wash mitts @ $10 = $40 plus $18 for grit guards (assuming you use them), it's five times the cost for the garry deam method. The cost of water in my area is 10 gallons/$0.01. Assuming I use 4 gallons of water per wash instead of 8, the break even point for me between the 2 methods is at 16375 weeks, pretty sure I'll be replacing the towels before then. It may make sense for mobile guys that can only take so much water with them, or people that have water restrictions, just doesn't work for me.

I don't see it being any faster either. Same # of trips to the bucket, now your folding a towel instead of rinsing a mitt, but not really saving substantial time.

And to those that say he's just capitalizing on the name, he very clear on several occasions in the video in question that he created this method, and it's pretty apparent that he did not. But that is the status quo in marketing.

He's a knowledgeable guy, and seams like a decent detailer; but he's a saleman in his videos, not a detailer. Just like a commercial for crecent rolls where the family is so excited to eat a hotdog rolled in a crecent roll; or the recipe for a margarita on the back of a bottle of cointreau, it's showing a way to use a specific product, and in this case a method that maximizes profits for the seller.
 
The guy is making $ unlike 99% of detailers. I think I hear some jealousy going on.
 
Making money?? how so? because he has a Youtube video? Because he could be the next infomercial host? Give for example Larry from Ammo, or Guy from CG they do not talk about innovating anything since they do not need to. Im sure those guys make just as much money as GD.
 
I wasn't trying to toot Garry's horn by any means. I was just bringing to light the method he "demonstrated" on the video. For me, I think I will be using it more often as I like traditional washes over ww and never thought to ditch the mitts (and gg) for towels.
 
fenderpicks said:
I didnt even know who Garry Dean was until maybe a week or 2 ago.
I know many have spoken about his WW Method and whatever method hes got.

I wasted 10 mins of my time and watched one of his videos, and all i can think to myself is like, wouldnt this be something a NORMAL detailer's would do with the correct common sense....? I mean how else can you possibly do it?

But anyways, yes hes probably not the FIRST person thought of this method or used it, but he did make a video out of it and what not, so props to him for that.
But man what i DID NOT KNOW was he has his own site selling his "Juices" which i think is completely a rip off.... and the names... are weird.....

I am not so much into waterless washing, but if i do use it or believe the company that invents the product, i'd go with Optimum.... simply just because I BELIEVE they are the first and the best that brought the waterless products in detailing.
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Garry is a hard working detailer that does great work and shared his techniques and info long before he had his own product line. If you were to purchase a product from Garry and wasn't completely happy your money would be refunded. Garry may be a lot of things like talented, outgoing , honest but a rip off artist he is not. He glady gives to the detailing community as he did at the Chicago get together and the Detail Fest put on by the local Mustang club with Junkman recently here in Indy. Garry always has time to help out a newbie as well as assisting a pro with a given problem. IMO he is a true asset to the detailing industry and all around nice guy. :xyxthumbs:
 
Theo_Auto_Fines said:
Making money?? how so? because he has a Youtube video? Because he could be the next infomercial host? Give for example Larry from Ammo, or Guy from CG they do not talk about innovating anything since they do not need to. Im sure those guys make just as much money as GD.
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It's true, he would make a good infomercial host haha. Ok, that was funny :laughing:

I like Larry, but come on, he says right in one of his promo videos that he couldn't find the right cleaning products so he had to make his own. . .really? Come on.

That's the same "arrogance" that you guys are dogging Garry for.

It's a sales tactic and it works.

Larry didn't "create" his own products (he paid a chemist to copy somebody elses stuff and maybe tweak it a little) and Gary didn't invent the Gary Dean Method. Big deal.
 
I recently used the rinsless method with a buch of mf towels soaked in the bucket and wetting the sruface of the car, but I can't help but notice swirls on my car now. Could of been from something else but I'm loosing faith in onr unless it's just for a very light washing of dust and fingerprints
 
Audios S6 said:
I will agree that it is all about the paint.

Saying that this method is cheaper and faster is debatable.

8 towels for a single wash, doing 2 cars twice a week is 32 towels @ Garry Dean price of $10/towel, that's $320 just for towels. Versus 4 chenille wash mitts @ $10 = $40 plus $18 for grit guards (assuming you use them), it's five times the cost for the garry deam method. The cost of water in my area is 10 gallons/$0.01. Assuming I use 4 gallons of water per wash instead of 8, the break even point for me between the 2 methods is at 16375 weeks, pretty sure I'll be replacing the towels before then. It may make sense for mobile guys that can only take so much water with them, or people that have water restrictions, just doesn't work for me.

I don't see it being any faster either. Same # of trips to the bucket, now your folding a towel instead of rinsing a mitt, but not really saving substantial time.

And to those that say he's just capitalizing on the name, he very clear on several occasions in the video in question that he created this method, and it's pretty apparent that he did not. But that is the status quo in marketing.

He's a knowledgeable guy, and seams like a decent detailer; but he's a saleman in his videos, not a detailer. Just like a commercial for crecent rolls where the family is so excited to eat a hotdog rolled in a crecent roll; or the recipe for a margarita on the back of a bottle of cointreau, it's showing a way to use a specific product, and in this case a method that maximizes profits for the seller.
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Well in my case there just aren't many car washes around and I don't have a dedicated source of water. So a "quasi" rinseless is the ONLY way I can wash my car. I also live on the second floor of an apartment so I have to lug whatever water and product I need down to my car. So yeah, 1 bucket vs 2 does indeed save me time and money because I use about half the water, and because I'm not dipping and rinsing my mitts/towels I save time too. From the time I get everything down to the car to wash to the time I dry the car off and take everything back upstairs it's 40-45 minutes for the one bucket wash vs 55-60 for the 2 bucket. PLUS the fact that you are guaranteed NOT to introduce dirty media to your paint with one bucket.

It's not that the 2 bucket method is bad, that's not what I'm saying at all. I just think after using both the single bucket is better all the way around. And I get how people get stuck in their ways. Change can be very frightening to some people. If the 2 bucket method gets some folks through the day and nothing changes your mind, then roll with it. No skin off my nose. Do what works for YOU - I know I do what works for me:xyxthumbs:
 
The method works on some cars. Daily driver? No way. At least not where I am. Where it's soccer mom cars that see a wash when you can't see out the windows. If be spending all day on those. Now a show car or a classic that can't see water? It's a good method then.

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Look the bottom line on all this:

1) grit guards don't remove all the dirt in your wash media. The only way to ensure you are always using clean wash media...is to use fresh wash media. Whether its several mitts or MF towels, the principle is sound.

2) who cares who originally got the idea. Henry ford didnt invent the car but his name is synonymous with the man who brought the idea to the masses.

I think the best way to wash a car is by not touching it at all. It's already being done in Europe with great success.
 
statusdetailing said:
The guy is making $...
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^^^This just may be of cardinal significance...^^^

-But couldn't it also be his wish to follow his idea of centricity...
as he feels/believes it is applicable in the: "Detailing World" ?

:dunno:

Bob
 
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