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When the dems federalize all elections... won't matter if you vote or not as this nation will be a one party political system and well on our way to full blown communism.

Most Americans are stupid, this is how this is happening.

But, we had a good run while it lasted...
 
Now I can have some level of respect for you-- It takes a big man to admit he's wrong about something, its hard to do.

I still have to dis-agree with your view that Trump was bad for America. Since this thread is about gas prices-- do you think they would be this high if Trump was still in office?

Gas is $4.39 in my little town of Crystal River Fl.

Are you a card carrying republican by any chance?

Honest question, i don't follow domestic politics in American anymore. Did the republicans push back over the US's Russian oil sanctions?
 
No, trumps energy policies were excellent, independence is what we need. It was the many other things that happened in the last two years of his presidency that made him into somebody that I couldn’t respect, granted sometimes he was really egged on with trash like the Russian accusation which was totally false, but he fought too much for me, his Twitter behavior was totally unacceptable. And because it was unacceptable, the election of 2020, was an anti-Trump vote , not a pro-Biden vote but it led Biden slide in and now we have the hi-jack of the presidency by the extreme green left…The independent vote, the only vote that matters, left Trump in droves. So although Trump did the right things, his behavior led to a major swing the opposite way, And now we have a dementia president that takes orders from a dark Cabal from the left. Which is probably more dangerous than anything we’ve had in the history of this country.

I feel the same. I have voted for R's and D's and will likely always do so depending on certain factors. I'm a registered independent.

The rhetoric, narcissism, ego, temper tantrums and fact that everyone close to him that left says he's not mentally fit for the job, pushed many of us to Biden. The moron is still saying the election was stolen yada yada. The guy is a complete buffoon and was just setting too many fires. He would intentionally say something to get a rise out of a particular group/media, set it on fire, then come in and try and play hero. He's a jackass. Now that doesn't mean i disagreed with everything he was trying to do. However, in aggregate I felt he was bad for the country as a whole. Very divisive president. You need unity in a crisis (pandemic). He failed miserably.

His trade policies sucked and who knows what he would have done in the current situation the way he loves Putin and other authoritarians. I personally think what Bolton recently said about him is accurate.

Trump has authoritarian tendencies. It's a clear as day. The way his base worships him is like North Koreans worshiping Kim. Weird. He also never said anything negative about Putin. Went against our intelligence agencies etc. Now look.....

Trump can't stand to lose. He's basically a 12-year-old n a fat man's body. I think he'd be president for life if he could pull it off.
 
Voting for a president is a really imperfect situation, and the Un fortunate part is people vote for who they like

The problem is ---ESPECIALLY with todays people , elections are a popularity contest and the mentality of people in this country for the most part when it comes to elections is if they dont like someone they wont vote for them-- TO HELL WITH THE COUNTRY

The populous of this country is just down right STUPID when it comes to politics & voting for leaders. I remember when I was standing in a long line to vote back when Clinton was running and there were 2 middle aged women fawning over the clintons and gores-- they were infatuated with how good looking bill was and how tipper had such a cool name

It was then I knew this country wouldn't last the duration of my lifetime
 
The problem is ---ESPECIALLY with todays people , elections are a popularity contest and the mentality of people in this country for the most part when it comes to elections is if they dont like someone they wont vote for them-- TO HELL WITH THE COUNTRY

The populous of this country is just down right STUPID when it comes to politics & voting for leaders. I remember when I was standing in a long line to vote back when Clinton was running and there were 2 middle aged women fawning over the clintons and gores-- they were infatuated with how good looking bill was and how tipper had such a cool name

It was then I knew this country wouldn't last the duration of my lifetime
At least Cliton looked into the camera and said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky"..."I need to get back to work of the American people". That guy was a world class politician, which meant he was a HOF liar. Wait till he passes away and ALL the Jeffery Epstein stuff comes out, good thing those 2 woman in line loved how he looked so much, probably the same age ad the mothers of those.....ahhh, never mind, it will all come out in time

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No I am not

But I won't vote for a democrat

I wouldn't either lol Trump talked a good game but ultimately he never delivered. I agreed with a lot of his inauguration speech. And frankly i thought he was hilarious at times. I think he's a self serving showman personally however. Both parties have been corrupted for a very longtime.

Observation: Have you ever noticed Trump always holds is hands in a triangle when he sits dowm? That is not natural. Its a symbol. To who? Many people have theories. I really don't know...BUT i think it is a nod to someone, dare i say secret society...the occult have been using hand symbols for 100's of years.
 
Now I can have some level of respect for you-- It takes a big man to admit he's wrong about something, its hard to do.

I still have to dis-agree with your view that Trump was bad for America. Since this thread is about gas prices-- do you think they would be this high if Trump was still in office?

Gas is $4.39 in my little town of Crystal River Fl.

I do think it would be close to this high, i can’t say the same. It was so low due covid and i think more of the war and world economy are affecting it now.

And Trump was absolutely bad for America as Biden is bad now. Just for different reasons. Conservative’s think in terms of economy. It was good but I think some of the bad we have now was a ripple effect of his term and Covid benefits.

Liberals think in terms of society, people

All that aside is that since segregation there has never been a more divide united states then his presidency.

A good majority of social justice were fighting for was magnified by his inactions, wrongness and racist bias.


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I wouldn't either lol Trump talked a good game but ultimately he never delivered. I agreed with a lot of his inauguration speech. And frankly i thought he was hilarious at times. I think he's a self serving showman personally however. Both parties have been corrupted for a very longtime.

Observation: Have you ever noticed Trump always holds is hands in a triangle when he sits dowm? That is not natural. Its a symbol. To who? Many people have theories. I really don't know...BUT i think it is a nod to someone, dare i say secret society...the occult have been using hand symbols for 100's of years.

Bust out the illuminate references!


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Bust out the illuminate references!


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I truly believe there in something to all the symbolism in the world coatings. What? I don't know. I've been reading about occult societies off and on for years now - upwards of 20 years. The druids, freemasons, Illuminati, jesuits, rosicrucians, rose of the cross, knights of malta etc
 
I truly believe there in something to all the symbolism in the world coatings. What? I don't know. I've been reading about occult societies off and on for years now - upwards of 20 years. The druids, freemasons, Illuminati, jesuits, rosicrucians, rose of the cross, knights of malta etc

No disrespect intended to be clear. I do believe in back room societies. How far is their reach how deep do they go….. that’s the interesting part.


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No disrespect intended to be clear. I do believe in back room societies. How far is their reach how deep do they go….. that’s the interesting part.


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No problem man. I didn't take it as a swipe.

Its no secret most of the founding fathers were freemasons.

Another example is hollywood is named from the holly tree in northern europe that the druids used to make there wands from apparently to cast spells IE magic.
 
Just got a notice that our electric bill "MAY GO UP" 20% in the near future due to fuel costs, transporting the fuel costs, etc etc

May go up?

I guess the public utility commission has to approve it but I sincerely doubt we will dodge this bullet

I am pretty well set on solar and backup battery but still manage a $200 a month bill because momma wants the AC on 24/7

Some folks are really going to be hurting

Our island already has the second highest utility rates in the nation
 
Just got a notice that our electric bill "MAY GO UP" 20% in the near future due to fuel costs, transporting the fuel costs, etc etc

May go up?

I guess the public utility commission has to approve it but I sincerely doubt we will dodge this bullet

I am pretty well set on solar and backup battery but still manage a $200 a month bill because momma wants the AC on 24/7

Some folks are really going to be hurting

Our island already has the second highest utility rates in the nation

Have you looked into a small wind generator? You have enough wind to power the entire island.:D
 
I just got a notice that our trash collection fee is going up 47% in June.

I'm anticipating more bill hikes in other areas. To say it sucks doesn't quite capture the sentiment.
 
I just got a notice that our trash collection fee is going up 47% in June.

I'm anticipating more bill hikes in other areas. To say it sucks doesn't quite capture the sentiment.

There are definitely trickle down effects we can’t see yet but they will get us one way or the other


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Have you looked into a small wind generator? You have enough wind to power the entire island.:D

I have and the suggestion is to get an accurate weather station that records and downloads info and do a one year wind study to see highest wind speeds, normal averages, etc because the better brands of wind generators are built for normal or high wind situations

I am surprised there aren’t more here but my solar guy says they were tried in the past and basically they just disintegrated

Lots of newer tech coming out like the vertical helix type fans

I have asked our association if they are allowed but haven’t heard back from the design committee yet

Existing propeller type fans are loud if you actually get one big enough to matter and noise issues are one of the biggest complaints out in the real world


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