GG compared to Meguire's. Also PCxp.

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I know the brush's are easily accessile on the Meguire's which is a nice feature. Are they easily accessable on the other two?

GG has the most power according to the specs. How does this compare to Meguire's cruise control, another nice feature?

I noticed the Meguire's has a larger opm range, at least on the slower side. How often would this slower opm be advantageous?

What bothers me about getting the Meguire's is the pad size. Many here seem to recommend the 5.5inch pads vs. the larger ones that come with the meguire's and PCxp DA's. I've read the larger pads are fine on the GG and Flex. I can afford the flex now, but from what I've read the GG can accept and handle 4inch pads up to 6.5inch pads. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Bill
 
Slower speeds are helpful for applying/removing wax and final polishing, but I'm doubtful the slower speeds on the Megs would provide an advantage.

I've never used my Griots on 1 or 2. (Maybe if I got the carpet brushes). You are correct, the GG can do some heavy correction with a 6" pad.
 
I love my GG and have used large 6.5in pads all the way down to 3in pads... I love the power of it and the correction ability... I rarely use my PE14 unless I am doing a huge correction now so the GG has taken the place for most jobs and I have yet to touch the brushes on it... Plus the GG has a life time warranty!
 
Just my thoughts:

I think the Shurhold Polisher, GG6 and Meg's all use the same design and maybe even made from the same manufacture. You can prove me wrong however. They all have pretty much the same look so that's what I'm going on but I'm sure I'm putting my foot in my mouth. Also they are all made in China.

If I remember right the Meg's G110v1 was made by Porter Cable, but after that deal they contracted out to a manufacture in China for the G110v2.

Now as your question about the pads, everyone will recommend on here that you use a 5.5" with whatever ODA polisher you use. GG6, G110v2, Shurhold, PCXP all use a 5/16 so you can use the same BP for all four of them. Which opens you up to use a BP of 3", 4", 5", 6" sizes. So no if you get the Meguiar's G110v2 you aren't stuck with a 6" only BP and 6.5" + pads.

Might wanna PM Charlie (Shiny'lil detailer) as I think he's the biggest fan on this forum of the G110v2 and get his 1st hand experience with the machine, since I do believe before he started to only use the G110v2 he used to use a gg6.
 
When I use my porter cable 7424xp on bumpers and some contours, the pad always stops and I'm using speed 5 with 5.5" pads.

Is this where the meguiar's g110v2 "cruise control" feature helps? Would the Griot's Garage polisher do better in this situation as well?
 
The Griot's is pretty powerful and wouldn't "stop." The G110v2 has a torque kick that helps the machine push on when pressure is applied. However out of all three I'm sure the GG6 would the strongest.
 
I have the G110V2 and it is a very weak machine. I haven't used the GG but I have used the PCXP and feel that it too is a weak machine. I got tired of all the tricks and technique to keep the pads rotating so I just learned how to use a rotary instead and bought a Flex 3401 too.

With my G110V2 I even have a hard time keeping 4" pads rotating on bumpers and mirrors.
 
I have yet to find any information regarding a UL listing for the GG polisher. Kinda makes me suspicious of the power ratings and safety of the machine...

Keep in mind that rotation is not the only contributing factor in defect removal.
 
PorscheGuy997 said:
I have yet to find any information regarding a UL listing for the GG polisher. Kinda makes me suspicious of the power ratings and safety of the machine...

Keep in mind that rotation is not the only contributing factor in defect removal.
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Is this what your looking for?:

120v-60Hz 7A

This is directly off of my GG...
 
The GG seems to have more power. I have only gone as high as speed 5 and rarely does it stop spinning. Usually I find it stops when I am not holding the pad level. I notice that the pad has a good bit to do with it as well. The LC Hydrotech both the thick and think pads tend to bog down the machine when they are not being held square or level to the surface.

I do have to say that the Megs MF cutting pads tend to be forgiving to bad angles. Yesterday was my first use of the LC constant pressure pads and I REALLY like them. I think these pads also do a better job then my other LC pads at handling the curves.

So weak machine I would imagine it would be even more of a PITA!
 
CrownKote said:
Is this what your looking for?

120v-60Hz 7A

This is directly off of my GG...
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A UL listing means that an independent company has gone through and verified the specifications listed on the machine. Otherwise, companies are free to post whatever they want. Also, the UL certification is essential for product safety.

It's unacceptable for a mass produced tool not be UL listed these days. My Griot's DA is parked until a listing is proven.
 
PorscheGuy997 said:
A UL listing means that an independent company has gone through and verified the specifications listed on the machine. Otherwise, companies are free to post whatever they want. Also, the UL certification is essential for product safety.

It's unacceptable for a mass produced tool not be UL listed these days. My Griot's DA is parked until a listing is proven.
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It should be marked on the product if it has approval which is actually part of the approval (having a label with the correct ratings). There is a double insulation mark.

I would be surprised that it does not since while UL is not mandatory in many US locations it would be for international sales.
 
Nonetheless, people who have the Griot's and either the Meguiars or the PC have verified that the Griot's is in fact stronger. I can verify that at speed 5-6 I have not been able to stop it from rotating, even with very strong pressure. What convinced me to go with the Griot's wasn't the extra power, it was the life-time warranty. Also, in case you didn't know, all of Griot's products have a 100% guarantee.
 
Rei86 said:
If I remember right the Meg's G110v1 was made by Porter Cable, but after that deal they contracted out to a manufacture in China for the G110v2.
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Incorrect. The G100 was made by Porter Cable (in fact, my G100 has the Porter Cable Model 7336 label plainly visible on the tool body) and included a lifetime replacement warranty. The G110v1 and G110v2 were both manufactured in China under contract and I'm told that the v2 has undergone several changes and upgrades since its initial release.... most notably the power cord which was widely known to be a problem on early models. Neither G110 model has carried the lifetime warranty the G100 did.

Might wanna PM Charlie (Shiny'lil detailer) as I think he's the biggest fan on this forum of the G110v2 and get his 1st hand experience with the machine, since I do believe before he started to only use the G110v2 he used to use a gg6.
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For the record, I've never had my hands on a GG6... actually the Griot's is the only of that style DA I haven't had the chance to use. Right now I own a G100, G110v2, Flex 3401, and Flex 3403 as well as a Dynabrade DA.

tuscarora dave said:
I have the G110V2 and it is a very weak machine. I haven't used the GG but I have used the PCXP and feel that it too is a weak machine. I got tired of all the tricks and technique to keep the pads rotating so I just learned how to use a rotary instead and bought a Flex 3401 too.

With my G110V2 I even have a hard time keeping 4" pads rotating on bumpers and mirrors.
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Dave, is your G110v2 one of the early models? I've never really had a problem keeping even the 6.5" and 7" Meguiar's foam pads rotating with mine, but it's also from one of the newest batches of machines. Don't know what all has been altered internally but my hunch is they've upgraded the power a bit. It's unquestionably a more powerful machine than the PCXP, but I can't speak to whether it's got as much power as the GG6 or not.

:buffing:
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
Incorrect. The G100 was made by Porter Cable (in fact, my G100 has the Porter Cable Model 7336 label plainly visible on the tool body) and included a lifetime replacement warranty. The G110v1 and G110v2 were both manufactured in China under contract and I'm told that the v2 has undergone several changes and upgrades since its initial release.... most notably the power cord which was widely known to be a problem on early models. Neither G110 model has carried the lifetime warranty the G100 did.

For the record, I've never had my hands on a GG6... actually the Griot's is the only of that style DA I haven't had the chance to use. Right now I own a G100, G110v2, Flex 3401, and Flex 3403 as well as a Dynabrade DA.
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I knew one was made by PC but forgot they actually made a model called the G100.

Thought you used to own the GG6 also. Should go out their and pick one up when AG has a 15percent sale on everything again Im the MAN
 
Charlie, your pm's are full!

What stuck out to me in that post was that you said you used larger pads with the meguires, which seems a bit opposite of what many have said about any of the other DA's. Everyone keeps saying to use the smaller pads.

I was thinking of going with the GG simply because of being able to use smaller 3,4,5,6 inch pads, instead of being tied down to the 4, 5.5 inch pads everyone recommends. I'm just thinking that larger pads would be a big plus on the large panels and save some time.

Having bougtht the Meguire's, based on what you've read about the GG do you regret your decision? I simply like the looks of the Meguire's better, but of course that may not affect functionality. Are you really pleased with your Meguire's? How much have you used it, and how heavy of work have you tortured it with?

Bill
 
Hoytman said:
Charlie, your pm's are full!

What stuck out to me in that post was that you said you used larger pads with the meguires, which seems a bit opposite of what many have said about any of the other DA's. Everyone keeps saying to use the smaller pads.

I was thinking of going with the GG simply because of being able to use smaller 3,4,5,6 inch pads, instead of being tied down to the 4, 5.5 inch pads everyone recommends. I'm just thinking that larger pads would be a big plus on the large panels and save some time.

Having bougtht the Meguire's, based on what you've read about the GG do you regret your decision? I simply like the looks of the Meguire's better, but of course that may not affect functionality. Are you really pleased with your Meguire's? How much have you used it, and how heavy of work have you tortured it with?

Bill
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Bill,

Yeah sorry, just noticed my box had filled up after I replied to you :doh:

To be honest, I've been using mostly 6.5" pads with my DAs for many years, even on the first-gen PC (G100). The issue isn't that you can't get good correction by going that route, it's that you have to pay even more attention to your technique and get used to how to keep the pad spinning while on curves/etc. since it's not quite as easy as it is with the 5.5" pads.

I don't regret buying the Meguiar's over the GG6, but that's mainly because I haven't used the GG6. A lot of people say the Griot's unit is more powerful, etc. which is fine, and I agree that on paper the specs look better, but for the kind of buffing I do, the G110v2 has yet to disappoint me. The build quality is good, the ergonomics are decent, and I'm happy with it overall.

I've put the G110v2 through its paces on a few cars now with the MF pad system, and most recently I used it with a 6.5" Meguiar's foam polishing pad to buff out a '56 Corvette and I experienced no hiccups at all.

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http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...corvette-america-s-sportscar-revitalized.html
 
I own both a g100 and g110v2, and have used the new GG6. The GG6 is definitely a strong machine. The only thing i hate is the location of the switch. If i had to buy another machine, this would be it. This machine surprised me as when i used it last, it nearly threw me off when i was buffing a rear bumper.

I have had my g100 since sometime junior year of high school (05/06) with no problems. Bought my g110v2 in november (was made in march of 2010) and have had to send it in for power cord failure (failed in may, just sent it out to the tune of $20 via ups :()
 
smokinfastlegend said:
I have had my g100 since sometime junior year of high school (05/06) with no problems. Bought my g110v2 in november (was made in march of 2010) and have had to send it in for power cord failure (failed in may, just sent it out to the tune of $20 via ups :()
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My understanding is the ones built in November/December are the ones where they changed out the cords and whatnot.

Sucks they make you have to pay for shipping, it should be on COD or an RMA label.

Just to sweeten the pot on this debate over whether the G110v2 is powerful or not, I shot a deliberately heavy-handed demonstration clip to show how much force the machine can withstand and still keep rotating:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QArfjNvSN2E]YouTube - ‪Meguiar's G110v2 Rotation Test‬‏[/video]
 
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