Glass Coating for Paint

[Waxmax]

Even though pics can be deceiving...we always see someone comment: "This Thread is Worthless Without Pics" ....some just like pics.

I also agree that Rasky gave a good comparison of 3 coatings...two glass/silica, and one OG (urethane?).

 

[ShineTimeDetail]

Glen just keep in mind that 22ple and other glass coatings have a life span anywhere from 6 months to 2 yrs depending on various conditions. OC is a permanent coating unlike the glass coatings which OC is not.. To back this up Optimum soon will offer a lifetime warranty on the Pro version when installed on a new car by a authorized installer. You will find the learning curve for most of the new glass coatings is quick and easy. The coating industry is sprouting out new products quicker then a person can keep track of . They are not for everyone but sure fill a need in the detailing market.

I didn't think OC was a permanent coating..

 

[2old2change]

-Haven't used either of these 'Coating' products.
(Nor can I locate the 22PLE or Nanolex 'Coatings' anywhere on the AGO Store's web-site.)

That being the case...I suppose I can inquire:

Have you ever used any of the:
Matrix Micro-Coatings products...The ones utilizing Ceramic Polymer-Nanotechnology?!?!
(No...I haven't as of yet...But that doesn't mean I won't in the future.)

I'm done http://phillyringers.com/stmarks/rounds3.wav

Bob

I see some claims on the glass or Nano coatings and one may wonder if it's being exaggerated a bit. I look at most of these as a semi-permanent coating compared to OG as a lifetime product. There is a good market for the easily applied glass type coatings with that little extra wet look or pop for the week end cruiser or garage queen. IMO OG is the go to product for a DD.
I have some coatings from ArtDeShine on the shelf waiting for testing and will try and give a review a soon as finished. I believe this is a major player in the new coating industry that markets under many different names. But back to the original poster. As I have mentioned previously , glass coating for bling and OC/OG for long lasting.IMO.

 

[KneeDragr]

There is a good market for the easily applied glass type coatings with that little extra wet look or pop for the week end cruiser or garage queen.

I dont think this 22ple falls into that category. There are reviews online where people are saying the applicator turns rock hard overnight, and the MF towels are ruined because there is glass woven into them.

 

[CEE DOG]

The ony coating that I know of that can actually have it's thickness measured with a paint gage is OC/OG. As for sticky film, I have not had this that you mention happen with the Expel clear film. I have yet to hear of a coating to actually do much in the way of protection from road debris or rock chips.

CQuartz, CQuartz UK, and CQuartz Finest can all be measured with a paint gauge.

Another thought... By the time 2 years is up most people will have there paint polished again which removes the coating.

 

[Audi X2]

I dont think this 22ple falls into that category. There are reviews online where people are saying the applicator turns rock hard overnight, and the MF towels are ruined because there is glass woven into them.

That is a fact. I used the Car Pro suede MF applicators and they
do turn rock hard quite fast.

 

[2old2change]

22ple does turn rock hard but is advertised with a 18-24 month life span. Can't post the link per AG rules. The mf or applicator turns hard do to the fact it IS a glass coating. Turning hard doesn't indicate whether its a permanent coating or not. OC/OG doesn't turn a applicator hard.
Corey, tried to measure CQuartz but showed no difference. Never used or tried the others.

 

[2old2change]

Another thought... By the time 2 years is up most people will have there paint polished again which removes the coating.[/QUOTE]

The statement was referring to the fact that 22ple is not advertised or marketed to be a permanent coating. IMO it is a great product. As of the present the only coating I see marketed as permanent is OC/OG. You will soon see Optimum offer a lifetime guarantee. With proper maintainence I see this as being possible.

 

[Glenn Taylor]

Ok this is for anyone. OC is a PERMANENT product am I the only one with reservations about applying a permanent product with a sponge and expect it to be evenly distributed and same thickness on all panels. Just saying!
I have sprayed my share of clear coat and it is easy to be consistent this way. If this was spray application I would grasp it better, I'm just not seeing it with a sponge(applicator I know I will be corrected for using sponge)either way it is rubbed on.

Anyone else picking up what I'm laying down here?

 

[2old2change]

Ok this is for anyone. OC is a PERMANENT product am I the only one with reservations about applying a permanent product with a sponge and expect it to be evenly distributed and same thickness on all panels. Just saying!
I have sprayed my share of clear coat and it is easy to be consistent this way. If this was spray application I would grasp it better, I'm just not seeing it with a sponge(applicator I know I will be corrected for using sponge)either way it is rubbed on.

Anyone else picking up what I'm laying down here?

I understand you reservations.There are actually a few (very few) OC installers spraying on this coating. You may want to watch the application video by Chris Thomas . He is a member on here that reps Optimum. He can answer all of your questions and assure you of any of OPT's products. He also runs Optimums forum and has a hand in product development. If Chris can't help you on a product then he has the ear of Dr.G who creates the products. I offer various coating to my customers and only try and explain to them what to expect from any given product. I find none of the current coatings available as a fits all product. Different strokes for different folks as they say.

 

[RaskyR1]

Ok this is for anyone. OC is a PERMANENT product am I the only one with reservations about applying a permanent product with a sponge and expect it to be evenly distributed and same thickness on all panels. Just saying!
I have sprayed my share of clear coat and it is easy to be consistent this way. If this was spray application I would grasp it better, I'm just not seeing it with a sponge(applicator I know I will be corrected for using sponge)either way it is rubbed on.

Anyone else picking up what I'm laying down here?

Once you use it you'll see there is nothing to worry about.


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[Glenn Taylor]

2old and Rasky I feel my confidence growing already! LOL
Will definitely watch the vid!

Thanks!

 

[Glenn Taylor]

As you guys can tell, yes I am thinking out loud. IPA's? Prior to using these products what do you guys use. CarPro Eraser looks like a good choice seeing how it dissolves oil and attracts dust with no need to keep recleaning.

 

[ShineTimeDetail]

Ok this is for anyone. OC is a PERMANENT product am I the only one with reservations about applying a permanent product with a sponge and expect it to be evenly distributed and same thickness on all panels. Just saying!
I have sprayed my share of clear coat and it is easy to be consistent this way. If this was spray application I would grasp it better, I'm just not seeing it with a sponge(applicator I know I will be corrected for using sponge)either way it is rubbed on.

Anyone else picking up what I'm laying down here?

So your telling me OC will give you all the characteristics for the rest of the cars life as long as you don't polish it off??

 

[Glenn Taylor]

So your telling me OC will give you all the characteristics for the rest of the cars life as long as you don't polish it off??

From what I have researched and what is advertised this seems to be the case. I know you can't believe everything you here in advertising, but when seasoned pros are backing it up with actually product use it's hard to deny. Proper maintenance is key also.

 

[RaskyR1]

So your telling me OC will give you all the characteristics for the rest of the cars life as long as you don't polish it off??

It will remain on the car and protect the finish, but without regular care you could see the beading characteristics drop off over time. Bonded surface contaminants will accumulate over time and will hinder the beading of the coating. Depending on the environment and how often the car is washed you may need to go over the can annually or bi-annually with products like IronX, TarX, Clay, and maybe even a light cleaner like Poli-Seal. With regular "proper" hand washing you should be able to go quite a while without needing anything. It's the peeps in the snow belt who run through touch-less washes all winter that will have a lot of bonded defects.

Note: The amount of bonded surface defects will still be far less than without the coating.

BTW. My new car is at the 6 month mark now with Opti-Guard on it and it still beading and sheeting like new with no bonded surface defects. :dblthumb2:

 

[Chris's FX4]

Wow, a lot of good info in this thread.rops:

It's the peeps in the snow belt who run through touch-less washes all winter that will have a lot of bonded defects.

This is true but touch-less is the only option for some of us during the winter.

 

[RaskyR1]

Wow, a lot of good info in this thread.rops:


This is true but touch-less is the only option for some of us during the winter.

I'm in the same boat but with follow up with ONR in the garage to remove what the touch-lees couldn't. IronX and TarX does wonders come spring time and should minimize the need to clay.

 

[BlackRam]

Rasky-
Could you provide an update on the 3 different coatings?