Glaze,Please Explain

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Nick B

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Will someone please explain in simple terms what is glaze, what's it's purpose, and when should you use it ? Also will it help with my black paint on my new Mustang that I told everyone about on an earlier thread ?
Thanks everyone,
Nick
 
Simply put it is made to hide flaws in the paint and make things shiny again.
 
Dubbin1 said:
Simply put it is made to hide flaws in the paint and make things shiny again.
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I thought polish was to remove flaws and make things shiny again . Wouldn't removing them be better than just hiding them ? In other words if you are going to do the work wouldn't a fine polish be better ?
Also with Megs which # glaze would be good for new paint ?
 
Nick B said:
I thought polish was to remove flaws and make things shiny again . Wouldn't removing them be better than just hiding them ?
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Yes removing them is better, if you achieve that then there is no need for a glaze.
 
sometimes you don't want to break out the polisher for every little swirl so you put a glaze on to hide them until you have time to polish them out.

Remember also that clearcoats are getting thinner and thinner on new cars nowadays so there is only so much polishing that can be done. I won't polish my car more than once a year. The rest of the time I'll be careful to wash properly.

Remember to never let the dealer wash your car for you after a service.
 
Nick B said:
I thought polish was to remove flaws and make things shiny again . Wouldn't removing them be better than just hiding them ? In other words if you are going to do the work wouldn't a fine polish be better ?
Also with Megs which # glaze would be good for new paint ?
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Exactly, glazes are only useful for filling in and hiding swirls and other minor imperfections. The only time I would use a glaze is if I was entering a car in a competition and noticed some last minute swirls that I didn't have time to polish out.
 
Polish-remove flaws that can be removed. Glaze- cover up flaws that cant be removed. Glaze also brings out a little more bling on dark calores.
 
I use Glaze after a correction for that extra "wow". Not only to remove flaws - but also for that wow function..... only lasts a few days though sadly.
 
Glaze is like a glazed doughnut..put it on for shine and looks pretty for a little while..come back later and it "runs" off... Glaze is only short term bling..and fills in and adds depth of color with its oils and fillers. It has its place..like every other car product.
 
bimmer325! said:
Glaze is like a glazed doughnut..put it on for shine and looks pretty for a little while..come back later and it "runs" off... Glaze is only short term bling..and fills in and adds depth of color with its oils and fillers. It has its place..like every other car product.
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It disappears that fast even if you cover it with a sealant or wax?
 
Marre said:
It disappears that fast even if you cover it with a sealant or wax?
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If you cover glaze with a sealant or wax it will last a little longer.
When the sealant or wax wears off the glaze will also wear off.

Compound = Swirls gone
Glaze = Swirls filled & hidden

When the wax/sealant wears off...the "hidden" swirls & scratches are back.

Using glaze is like using Pinnacle Souveran...it looks real good while it lasts.

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Does anyone know...Would you use #7 then glaze or glaze then #7?
I personally think it would be glaze then #7 but I'm not 100% sure.
How would Megs #7 effect the glaze that has already been applied?
 
merlin said:
If you cover glaze with a sealant or wax it will last a little longer.
When the sealant or wax wears off the glaze will also wear off.

Compound = Swirls gone
Glaze = Swirls filled & hidden

When the wax/sealant wears off...the "hidden" swirls & scratches are back.

Using glaze is like using Pinnacle Souveran...it looks real good while it lasts.
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I still say the glaze is going to come off after the first rain or wash.


If I had a swirled car I would prove it.
 
Dubbin1 said:
I still say the glaze is going to come off after the first rain or wash.
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:iagree:

With the amount of oils glaze has, I doubt any sealer or wax can make a proper bond with the paint. Any sealer or wax over glaze will last no more than a handful of washes.
 
Kind of confused here. I mean I've even read that the oils help to bond the wax to the paint. Since we are talking about chemicals and how they react to each other, then there must be a scientific answer to the question. Or not, lol.
 
Some glazes (like EZ Creme, Black Hole, Wet Glaze, Amigo) are polymer based and do not contain oils. The LSP can bond ok to these.

I use them to help conceal light imperfections (I don't want to remove too much clear coat) and add a little pop to the final look....just me.

It's an optional step.
 
I think it is a matter of finding products that are compatible together, like you suspected with the chemical interaction. FWIW, I have read (and used) PB's Black Hole underneath WG 3.0 sealant with no noticeable detrimental effects (the sealant remained despite repeated washings).

AG's glaze product page even specifically states to top with a sealant or wax. It would seem counter-intuitive to list that if the end result is still going to be two products failing after a couple of washes.

Check out this review: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/19914-poorboys-black-hole-glaze-review.html

Note the comment from killrwheels that states BH is compatible with waxes and sealants alike. Likewise, Pockets@Poorboy's World says to top with a wax or sealant to lock in the glaze/fillers and states while it will reduce the life of the sealant "becasue instead of the sealant adhering to the paint it is adhering to a layer of glaze" "its not anything to be concerned about its not like it will take away a month or anything"

Finally, there is this comment in the thread that I found helpful: "This is a 'new generation' of glazes ... not the traditional oily based glazes used years ago. This 'glaze' (a new name would rid any bad connotations associated with the word) is more of a sealant in itself ... no oils or anything that will be detrimental to the LSP. I personally don't know anything about the chemicals in this new string of glazes but I do know that they work"


I think the bottom line is it might not be necessary and there are going to be people that aver that will or will not last under a sealant. I would suggest testing it yourself might just be the best route to go. :xyxthumbs:
 
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