Glazes are for what????

[Sellncars]

Hello everyone,

I have a few questions about Glazes. Now after all paint corrections are finished on the vehicle, why would you put down a glaze first? I currently only have Vanilla Moose, seems like oil based. How can a Paint sealant or wax adhere to an oil based product? What is everyone's choice of a glaze and how well do they work? I've only used the VM on my outside windows and front bumper.

Thanks,
Sellncars

 

[maddenbowler]

if you do a full correction you dont need a glaze. A glaze fills in small swirls.

 

[Sellncars]

if you do a full correction you dont need a glaze. A glaze fills in small swirls.

So a glaze is mostly used for hiding any imperfections? When someone doesn't have the time for a true detail.

 

[budman3]

Some glazes have properties to fill in defects and others amp up the shine / look / gloss / whatever on the paint to achieve the best results possible. As always, looks are subjective ... but you are the only one to judge what works best for you.

 

[Joshs2013MSAltimaSL]

Glazes are not needed for anything if you correct and polish the paint correctly. They will not add any extra shine, gloss, or anything.

 

[PerroneFord]

So a glaze is mostly used for hiding any imperfections? When someone doesn't have the time for a true detail.

It's not always an issue of time. I deal in classic cars. OFtentimes these cars have the original paint. When preparing a car with 50 year old paint for a show, you don't necessarily want to chase every swirl or small imperfection. Particularly if the paint is fragile or thin. In that instance a glaze can be a lifesaver. While it's not a permanent fix for the issue, it does allow the owner to have a lovely looking car without running the risk of buffing through the paint.

Each technique and product has it's place.

 

[Garry Dean]

They were designed to fill lightly and enhance gloss before a wax. They are basically a thing of the past now as many detailers including myself bypass that step and replace it with true correction.

 

[killrflake]

It's not always an issue of time. I deal in classic cars. OFtentimes these cars have the original paint. When preparing a car with 50 year old paint for a show, you don't necessarily want to chase every swirl or small imperfection. Particularly if the paint is fragile or thin. In that instance a glaze can be a lifesaver. While it's not a permanent fix for the issue, it does allow the owner to have a lovely looking car without running the risk of buffing through the paint.

Each technique and product has it's place.

It seems that as in your example, the use of a glaze is quite limited to few and not most detailers. Just my thoughts.

 

[Sellncars]

It's not always an issue of time. I deal in classic cars. OFtentimes these cars have the original paint. When preparing a car with 50 year old paint for a show, you don't necessarily want to chase every swirl or small imperfection. Particularly if the paint is fragile or thin. In that instance a glaze can be a lifesaver. While it's not a permanent fix for the issue, it does allow the owner to have a lovely looking car without running the risk of buffing through the paint.

Each technique and product has it's place.

Thank you for breaking it down like that. I understand now where a glaze would be used.

 

[PerroneFord]

It seems that as in your example, the use of a glaze is quite limited to few and not most detailers. Just my thoughts.

I wouldn't disagree. However, I did simply want to point out that just because one uses a glaze, doesn't mean it's because the detailer is "lazy" or short for time.

Many detailers here have a dozen or more waxes and sealants on their shelves. Some are used for very specific instances. One might increase reflectivity on light colored cars. Another might enhance the flake in some paints. Having a product on the shelf to help showcars, especially older or vintage showcars is merely another tool in the toolbox.

 

[ScottB]

There are several important issues to consider with a glaze, first is the definition versus the actual product. Some detailing terms like polish and glaze are now used for marketing purposes and to standout amongst their peers. (ie. Wolfgang Finishing Glaze, not a glaze but a finishing polish)

My take is that pure glazes were popular in the past for two reasons, one is their ability to add significant wetness and gloss and the other for temporary filling or hiding of swirls. These were often used at car shows and though had no protection often showed the best of a finish for judging and gone by first wash. They could be topped with a carnuaba wax for longer durability as desired, but often looked best without it.

There are indeed newer glazes (think Poorboys) that work with sealants and still offer the benefits of additional gloss and wetting agents and yet still allow paint sealant to cure and bond. So these products "could" be considered valuable as part of detailing but not a mandatory step.