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Gold Cars
All about colors, light and reflectivity

I just detailed a 98 Gold jeep when i was done i was less then impressed with the out come of the exterior, although most of the swirls marks are gone i dont think it reflects that well, Why is that???

I imagine it is the color, I did my wifes black car and i could shave in the reflection it is that clear...

Just curious...
 
What products did you use? it might be you need to follow up with something else to bring out the gloss. Don't know the whole story, that is just my quick assessment.
 
cleanfreek said:
I just detailed a 98 Gold jeep when i was done i was less then impressed with the out come of the exterior, although most of the swirls marks are gone i dont think it reflects that well, Why is that??? I imagine it is the color, I did my wifes black car and i could shave in the reflection it is that clear... Just curious...
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Too many variables...
 
List the steps you performed along with products and then everyone will be able to provide you some feedback; a picture or two of some areas of the vehicle certainly would speak volumes as well.
 
Vegas Transplant said:
Too many variables...
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Good point! VT. (But, you know how I am :D)
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@OP...

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cleanfreek said:
I just detailed a 98 Gold jeep when i was done i was less then impressed with the out come of the exterior, although most of the swirls marks are gone i dont think it reflects that well, Why is that??? I imagine it is the color, I did my wifes black car and i could shave in the reflection it is that clear... Just curious...
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-A starting-point to even begin an attempt to decipher your particular: "light-wave-reflection-phenomenom", would be for you to list:
Each of the two vehicle's, you've listed, paint systems...SS or BC/CC (RE: top- coat paint film).

Then, perhaps, the following illustrations, along with referencing...

-The visible-light wavelengths (400-700 nm) on the electromagnetic spectrum;
-The eye's physiological 'make-up' (including the "cones")/to the brain's psychological interpretations of "what is seen";
-Line of view/focal-point;
-Type of mirror surface (flat/smooth, convex, concave) the vehicles' panels: top-coat paint film...have been ground (polished)...RE: highlighted in Red above;
-Etc., etc.;

...could be ordained applicable, or not.
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Light Behaviors:



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Light and CC:


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BTW: Gold color(s)' wavelength(s) would lie between Yellow and Orange (570-590 nm)



:)

Bob
 
If you want reflections like you see from a mirror you need dark colors.

Light colors just don't offer the depth and reflectivity as darker colors. This is also why people knowledgeable about car detailing that DON"T want car detailing to be their hobby or passion buy silver metallic cars because it's harder to see defects in these types of colors just like it's harder to see crisp, well-defined reflections.

The orange paint on this car, similar to a gold hue looks incredibly glossy but does NOT reflect images like the black 1959 El Camino below...


1939 Lincoln Zephyr - Swirls Removed - Modeled by Nicole


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1959 Chevrolet El Camino - Extreme Makeover - Modeled by Christina


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Keep in mind however that black isn't a color, it's a full time job.




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Also black is well black, it's the color that reflects the most( you can see yourself clearly in the paint) black vs gold in reflectivity is a major difference.


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Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Keep in mind however that black isn't a color, it's a full time job.
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Beat me by a minute..:D.. My truck Is a full time job plus overtime( I don't get paid though:() it will never be swirl free, but when it is for about 2 weeks after a detail I fall in love with black again.


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Jomax said:
Also black is well black, it's the color that reflects the most( you can see yourself clearly in the paint) black vs gold in reflectivity is a major difference.


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The: Light Reflective Values Scale (LRV)...is one determinate of reflectivity, with Pure White (and some Yellows) being the most reflective, not Black.

-Go to most construction sites and you'll find a plethora of 'Yellow' (Safety Orange) hard-hats, not Black ones.
-I rarely see Firetrucks painted Black.

Most modern-day mirrors (not lenses) have either an Aluminum or Silver "backing-paint" in order to acheive the best (most) reflective values...the 'mirror image' affect.

Must be something more going on for Black-painted vehicles to exhibit (than what our eyes/brains are telling us): more 'reflectivity'.

-Is it because Black has less diffraction-efficiency than Pure White? (Is: scattering-of-light...a similar phrase?)
-How does specular-reflectivity come into play?
-Would the same color of Black 'reflect' differently if it were part of a SS paint system, or part of a BC/CC paint system?
-Would the light-source and intensity of a light-source be factors?


The Big Question: Where are the "Color Chemists" when/if we need them?

The Big Comments:
-All of the above probably doesn't matter that much, in ones everyday life...
-Just enjoy a 'reflective' Black vehicle, when/while you are able!! I know I try to. (LOL)

:)

Bob
 
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The wife's Pacifica is gold. After a wash, clay, and wax, if it glows, I'm happy. Attention to wheels and tires make a huge difference in how much it glows.
 
vet said:
The wife's Pacifica is gold. After a wash, clay, and wax, if it glows, I'm happy. Attention to wheels and tires make a huge difference in how much it glows.
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@vet:...You being happy...Now that's another huge factor. ("All that Glitters (glow) is Gold"!)


@OP:...

Also...Hue, saturation, and brightness of paints, themselves, may be some other factors in determining 'reflectivity'.

:)

Bob
 
The best product I have found on my Gold Grand Marquis is Wolfgang 3.0 Paint Sealant!! It is amazing!! Clay it do a one step polish then top with 3.0.
 
Thanks for the responses, as for my processes
Wash Pinnicle shampoo
Clay Bar
PC7424xp
Pinnicle Advanced swirl remover Orange smart pad 3 passes speed 5.5
Pinnicle Advanced Finishing polish White smart pad 2 passes speed 4.5
Pinnecle soveran liquid wax Blue smart pad speen 3

My thought was also that it was the color in my garage i could see the light and my own reflection, But as soon as i took it outside that is when I noticed the lack of reflection but increased depth...
 
cleanfreek said:
Thanks for the responses,.......Hope your questions in your OP were answered, at least to some degree.

My thought was also that it was the color in my garage i could see the light and my own reflection, But as soon as i took it outside that is when I noticed the lack of reflection but increased depth... HMMMM...Good "experimentation".
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FUNX725 said:
-Would the light-source and intensity of a light-source be factors?
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Sounds like you've hit upon some determinates/factors regarding reflectivity!

:)

Bob
 
KBsMB said:
today`s project, Fuzion ;)
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cleanfreek said:
Thanks for the responses, as for my processes
Wash Pinnicle shampoo
Clay Bar
PC7424xp
Pinnicle Advanced swirl remover Orange smart pad 3 passes speed 5.5
Pinnicle Advanced Finishing polish White smart pad 2 passes speed 4.5
Pinnecle soveran liquid wax Blue smart pad speen 3

My thought was also that it was the color in my garage i could see the light and my own reflection, But as soon as i took it outside that is when I noticed the lack of reflection but increased depth...
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Notice the deep reflections on a light finish in indirect light(ing).
Spot on as usual FUN!
 
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