Got a little anxiety going on here lol need advice for possible first paying job.

Eldorado2k said:
Ugh I hate when people with Tahoes or Suburbans ask for a detail... I always wind up feeling like I'm on the short end of the stick because most people can't handle the truth when it comes to what I should actually charge to detail a vehicle that large.

Yesterday while I was doing a mobile detail, I had some guy come ask me how much I would charge for a detail.. I asked what kind of vehicle it was.. He said it was his wifes mini van.. I immediately thought to myself "oh heck no, not again" lol.

I'm done breaking my back on super dirty family wagons for fair prices... I told him "mini van? Those things usually cost alot more to do because of the size and their usual condition" He got the hint. Lol.


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So VERY true!!! Large SUV's, large pickups and "family wagons" (aka MiniVans) are not only the largest vehicles, but are more times than not in the worst conditions (e.g. Gummy Bears melted into the carpet from 2 years ago) and more swirls than should be legal.

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RMarkJr said:
so what would you suggest on that? Do more .. charge less .. or both? But then again .. I doubt the local car wash it going to be sure to get every part of the panel and dash and all the crevices too.
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IMO for that price and the services he listed, it sounds like a car wash, not a "full detail"
For example, If it's a "full detail":
-How are you going to wax without claying?
-Clay exterior windows
-If the headlights are hazy, do a quik light restoration [via polisher w/compound]
-Wheel Wells
-Don't just vacuum seats & carpet. Clean them.
-Don't just do a quik wipedown of interior panels.. Instead get into every nook & cranny with APC and a detail brush.
-Clean & dress weatherstripping
-restore or at least dress exterior trim
-Fog interior to freshen air and eliminate odors.
-Some people even clean under the hood

~ Then you can begin to call it a "full detail" and charge even more than $175, but at least the customer doesn't feel fleeced afterwards.


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I attract th3 mini-vans that aren't only destroyed by kids but also have 30lbs of dog hair embedded into every fiber of the carpet. I just now refuse vehicles with excessive dog hair, this is still a hobby for me that I sometimes extend out my services on facebook buy/sell/trade sites.
 
Well update ... on the SUV .. ended up being a suburban and not a Tahoe. A completely wrapped Suburban at that. I first said that I would include the foam cannon .. two bucket wash ... air dry...clean the rims, inner rim, wheel wells, dress tires, wheel wells, clean door jams, clean gas lid area, clean glass inside and out, and put a wax or sealant on it (depending what is best for the wrap) for 200 and then trim restore for 50 more. I figured 200 mainly due to having to wax that big ass thing more than likely by hand ... i dont think I like doing it by machine as of now.

They then said that the company they work for does it for 65. No idea what all they actually do or how well they do it.


I thought about it for awhile and said I would do all that I listed for 125 since there was not going to be any paint correction at all .. and I kinda know the people (girlfriends, friends sister and husband)

They still said that was too high and I was like Im not doing that suburban.

I am not sure if my fist offer was too high .. I think the second one might have been a bit low .. but again no paint correction and no interior work done.

any thoughts??
 
I think you should be happy you're not doing it. $65 is way too low...


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Also, you pretty much never want to "wax" without claying unless for some rare reason the paint's already smooth... Removing wax from paint that needs claying is cringe worthy and will make you feel like you half arsed it.

I recommend this clay towel. It works like a champ and really speeds things up. Get yourself some Mckee's N-914 to use as claylube @1:128 and use plenty of it when using this towel and it will work flawlessly.

http://www.autogeek.net/autoscrub-handy-towel.html


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Eldorado2k said:
Also, you pretty much never want to "wax" without claying unless for some rare reason the paint's already smooth... Removing wax from paint that needs claying is cringe worthy and will make you feel like you half arsed it.

I recommend this clay towel. It works like a champ and really speeds things up. Get yourself some Mckee's N-914 to use as claylube @1:128 and use plenty of it when using this towel and it will work flawlessly.

Nanoskin Autoscrub Handy Towel


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I will look into that .. I have a clay bar .. I also have that autoscrub thing .. not sure how well I like it. But that particular car was wrapped. Dont think clay would be a good idea on that?

also ..do you know what is a good protection for a wrapped car .. like wax or a sealant?
 
RMarkJr said:
I will look into that .. I have a clay bar .. I also have that autoscrub thing .. not sure how well I like it. But that particular car was wrapped. Dont think clay would be a good idea on that?

also ..do you know what is a good protection for a wrapped car .. like wax or a sealant?
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I know nothing about wrapped cars... I was going to ask exactly what you meant by wrapped.. I mean I guess I know what it is, but if it was me I wouldn't touch it. Especially for those prices.

Which exact product is "autoscrub"?


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Eldorado2k said:
I know nothing about wrapped cars... I was going to ask exactly what you meant by wrapped.. I mean I guess I know what it is, but if it was me I wouldn't touch it. Especially for those prices.

Which exact product is "autoscrub"?


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guess it has some clear plastic/vinyl protective film all over it.

the autoscrub is by nanoskin ... its a 6 inch synthetic clay disc that goes on an orbital.
 
RMarkJr said:
the autoscrub is by nanoskin ... its a 6 inch synthetic clay disc that goes on an orbital.
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Oh I don't like those things... IME they marr the heck out of the paint.

That little towel + the 7"x7" Med Grade Speedy Prep Towel are the only ones I like. As far as claybar, I like Meguiars C-2000 Professional Detailing Clay.


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Eldorado2k said:
Oh I don't like those things... IME they marr the heck out of the paint.

That little towel + the 7"x7" Med Grade Speedy Prep Towel are the only ones I like. As far as claybar, I like Meguiars C-2000 Professional Detailing Clay.


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ya the only clay bar that i have tried so far is that smooth detailing clay kit from meguiars ... didnt like it much
 
RMarkJr said:
ya the only clay bar that i have tried so far is that smooth detailing clay kit from meguiars ... didnt like it much
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What didn't you like about it?


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Eldorado2k said:
What didn't you like about it?


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well when I went over the the whole car ... and before checking I spot compounded .. then polished the whole thing really good. Then I decide to do the baggie test ... bumps all over still. I should have either used something more aggressive or iron-x before the clay bar
 
RMarkJr said:
well when I went over the the whole car ... and before checking I spot compounded .. then polished the whole thing really good. Then I decide to do the baggie test ... bumps all over still. I should have either used something more aggressive or iron-x before the clay bar
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Ya it tends to be pretty mild.. Try doing a heavily contaminated vehicle and takes a good long while with most claybars including that 1.


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Eldorado2k said:
Ya it tends to be pretty mild.. Try doing a heavily contaminated vehicle and takes a good long while with most claybars including that 1.


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been hearing good things about .. I think its called clay magic. I might try that .. and the meguiars aggressive one
 
Eldorado2k said:
I predict his girls brother will balk at $300... I'm not saying it's not a proper price, it's just that friends & relatives have a mentality that they're gonna get hooked up, or they're just flat out cheap or don't know the amount of work that goes into it. Sucks but it's true.

That's why I tell people, The real money isn't going to come from your known people... It's going to come from the reference people aka the people who don't know you from jack but actually Need their vehicle detailed.

Trying to make good bank from the people you already know can be a losing battle. But if they recommend you to some people they know you begin to see a different breed of customer that actually needs your service, instead of someone who thinks it would be "neat" to have their car detailed.

Just my 2 cents.


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I completely agree on this. I used to do screen printing on the side and family and friends always had the mentality that they were going to get the family(hook-up) price. I learned the hard way and wouldn't do it again. I suggest charge what you would normally charge. I don't detail for a living so I can't help you on how much you should charge, but good luck and hopefully it works out for you.
 
Poohbear said:
I completely agree on this. I used to do screen printing on the side and family and friends always had the mentality that they were going to get the family(hook-up) price. I learned the hard way and wouldn't do it again. I suggest charge what you would normally charge. I don't detail for a living so I can't help you on how much you should charge, but good luck and hopefully it works out for you.
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well this one didnt

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Well update ... on the SUV .. ended up being a suburban and not a Tahoe. A completely wrapped Suburban at that. I first said that I would include the foam cannon .. two bucket wash ... air dry...clean the rims, inner rim, wheel wells, dress tires, wheel wells, clean door jams, clean gas lid area, clean glass inside and out, and put a wax or sealant on it (depending what is best for the wrap) for 200 and then trim restore for 50 more. I figured 200 mainly due to having to wax that big ass thing more than likely by hand ... i dont think I like doing it by machine as of now.

They then said that the company they work for does it for 65. No idea what all they actually do or how well they do it.


I thought about it for awhile and said I would do all that I listed for 125 since there was not going to be any paint correction at all .. and I kinda know the people (girlfriends, friends sister and husband)
 
RMarkJr said:
well this one didnt

this is from page 3

Well update ... on the SUV .. ended up being a suburban and not a Tahoe. A completely wrapped Suburban at that. I first said that I would include the foam cannon .. two bucket wash ... air dry...clean the rims, inner rim, wheel wells, dress tires, wheel wells, clean door jams, clean gas lid area, clean glass inside and out, and put a wax or sealant on it (depending what is best for the wrap) for 200 and then trim restore for 50 more. I figured 200 mainly due to having to wax that big ass thing more than likely by hand ... i dont think I like doing it by machine as of now.

They then said that the company they work for does it for 65. No idea what all they actually do or how well they do it.


I thought about it for awhile and said I would do all that I listed for 125 since there was not going to be any paint correction at all .. and I kinda know the people (girlfriends, friends sister and husband)
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It was probably for the best.
 
Congrats on Saying No! I Might Wash a Burban for 65 for somebody i Know.
Don't feel Bad about Not getting the Job You'll Get plenty More. It's All part Of the Game.


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