Griots 6" Pad recomendations
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Mike Phillips
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The larger 6.5 pads aren't going to slow the GG ROP down, it will probably just laugh at them.
See the backing plates I show in this thread. The link is actually on the first page of this thread.
rops:5" and 6" Backing Plates on 6.5" pads (Pictures to show safety margin)
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CEE DOG
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Absolutely! I assume you're talking about the 6" stock backing plate. I think this is probably what most people do with the griots. Stock backing plate with 6.5 pads
I have the GG 6" DA and Ive used the Cobra Crossgroove 6.5" pads with out any problems on it
it takes alot to stop the pads from spinning
Ive also used the Griot 6" orange and red pads and I really like them
the orange doesnt cut at much as the LC orange but it does a good job
my next order will be for some of the hydrotech pads im curious to see how they work
it takes alot to stop the pads from spinning
Ive also used the Griot 6" orange and red pads and I really like them
the orange doesnt cut at much as the LC orange but it does a good job
my next order will be for some of the hydrotech pads im curious to see how they work
Mike Phillips
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Mike Phillips
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One of my favorite things to do on the forum is reply to a question and only having to type out a single word.
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O.C.Detailing
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I feel the absolute need to post on this subject. The Griot's machine and the hydro-tech pads have "issues". Because the Griot's has so much power, and because the backing pad on the Hydro-tech pads does NOT cover the entire back of the pad, you will destroy your new hydro-tech pads if you use Griot's on speed 6 often.
I had an issue with the first batch of Hydro-tech pads which I thought were just a fluke, so I bought more and even had several replaced free-of-charge by AG because the backing on the pads just separated for no reason what-so-ever. Every hydro-tech pad that I"ve put on my Griot's has either had the backing fail completely after only a couple of uses or the backing plate has eaten through the portion of the pad NOT covered by the backing. I've also had the foam literally TEAR apart from where the backing stops on the back of the pads.
DO NOT use the hydro-tech pads with the Griot's unless they start covering the entire back of the pad with the backing.
John (VR8) can verify everything I"ve just posted as being true and completely factual as several of the pads destroyed were his own after being used with my machine. Don't waste your money with the hydro-tech pads if you're using a Griot's on a regular basis for professional detailing. This is also with 3-4 separate orders of the pads. I believe I have a few photos to show some of the issues I've had if you're interested.
Stick with the CCS 6.5" pads or the 5.5" pads with the 5" backing plate. The only issue I've had with the CCS pads is the backing will eventually stop sticking to the velcro on the backing plate, but that's ONLY after months of use.
I had an issue with the first batch of Hydro-tech pads which I thought were just a fluke, so I bought more and even had several replaced free-of-charge by AG because the backing on the pads just separated for no reason what-so-ever. Every hydro-tech pad that I"ve put on my Griot's has either had the backing fail completely after only a couple of uses or the backing plate has eaten through the portion of the pad NOT covered by the backing. I've also had the foam literally TEAR apart from where the backing stops on the back of the pads.
DO NOT use the hydro-tech pads with the Griot's unless they start covering the entire back of the pad with the backing.
John (VR8) can verify everything I"ve just posted as being true and completely factual as several of the pads destroyed were his own after being used with my machine. Don't waste your money with the hydro-tech pads if you're using a Griot's on a regular basis for professional detailing. This is also with 3-4 separate orders of the pads. I believe I have a few photos to show some of the issues I've had if you're interested.
Stick with the CCS 6.5" pads or the 5.5" pads with the 5" backing plate. The only issue I've had with the CCS pads is the backing will eventually stop sticking to the velcro on the backing plate, but that's ONLY after months of use.
Mike Phillips
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Just to highlight a couple of point you make...
I'll pass your feedback onto the manufacture, that's where your feedback will mean the most.
See post #5 in the below thread, third paragraph
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...rs/22033-got-chance-play-griots-da-while.html
And first paragraph in post #7 of the below thread,
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...rs/20437-griot-s-random-orbital-polisher.html
Just to note, as you pointed out, the Griot's Garage ROP has a lot of power, combine that with the violent oscillating action and part of the "issue" could just be the Griot's Garage ROP is pushing adhesive technology to its limit as far as an joining interface between foam and the hook & loop material.
Besides the violent oscillating action, there are two other factors minimum that have a strong effect on the adhesive, pressure over time, and the resulting heat from pressure over time and from the machine itself.
I point out all of the above just for some balance and perspective to your comments because there's a lot factors at play as it relates to adhesive performance and the Griot's Garage does offer almost twice the wattage of both the Meguiar's and the Porter Cable units.
Porter Cable 7424XP
4.5 AMP
500 Watt Motor
Meguiar's G110v2
4.2 AMP
430 Watt Motor
Griot's Garage Random Orbital Polisher
7.0 AMP
850 Watt Motor
Like you said...
On the opposite side of the spectrum would be a polisher that wouldn't create issues with the adhesive used to attach the hook & loop material to foam due to a lack of power. Over the last 2 decades I've seen people complain because dual action polishers didn't have enough power.
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And again, I'll pass your feedback onto the manufacture, as I'm sure feedback like this is important to them.
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I'll pass your feedback onto the manufacture, that's where your feedback will mean the most.
See post #5 in the below thread, third paragraph
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...rs/22033-got-chance-play-griots-da-while.html
And first paragraph in post #7 of the below thread,
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...rs/20437-griot-s-random-orbital-polisher.html
Just to note, as you pointed out, the Griot's Garage ROP has a lot of power, combine that with the violent oscillating action and part of the "issue" could just be the Griot's Garage ROP is pushing adhesive technology to its limit as far as an joining interface between foam and the hook & loop material.
Besides the violent oscillating action, there are two other factors minimum that have a strong effect on the adhesive, pressure over time, and the resulting heat from pressure over time and from the machine itself.
I point out all of the above just for some balance and perspective to your comments because there's a lot factors at play as it relates to adhesive performance and the Griot's Garage does offer almost twice the wattage of both the Meguiar's and the Porter Cable units.
Porter Cable 7424XP
4.5 AMP
500 Watt Motor
Meguiar's G110v2
4.2 AMP
430 Watt Motor
Griot's Garage Random Orbital Polisher
7.0 AMP
850 Watt Motor
Like you said...
On the opposite side of the spectrum would be a polisher that wouldn't create issues with the adhesive used to attach the hook & loop material to foam due to a lack of power. Over the last 2 decades I've seen people complain because dual action polishers didn't have enough power.
:laughing:
And again, I'll pass your feedback onto the manufacture, as I'm sure feedback like this is important to them.
:xyxthumbs:
O.C.Detailing
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Thanks Mike. I"m starting to get a bit better at this detailing game and working with John (VR8) is actually spoiling me to the point that I don't really want to detail cars alone anymore. lol
Anyway, I bought a CCS 6-pad kit and haven't had ANY issues with the pads so far after use on several cars. I would REALLY like to get my hands on some non-low-profile 4" CCS pads as I feel I could benefit from them and would get more use out of them than the 6" pads.
If I could get the Hydro-tech pads with backings that cover the entire back of the pad, that would rock as the HT pads do actually work better than the CCS in relation to actual correction, it's just that the backing doesn't stay on them and the sides literally tear apart due to the reasons you listed above.
So what are the chances Lake Country would make a non-low-profile 4" CCS and Hydro-tech pad? I don't really like the whole low-profile thing. I'd rather have more protection between my polisher and the paint.
Anyway, I bought a CCS 6-pad kit and haven't had ANY issues with the pads so far after use on several cars. I would REALLY like to get my hands on some non-low-profile 4" CCS pads as I feel I could benefit from them and would get more use out of them than the 6" pads.
If I could get the Hydro-tech pads with backings that cover the entire back of the pad, that would rock as the HT pads do actually work better than the CCS in relation to actual correction, it's just that the backing doesn't stay on them and the sides literally tear apart due to the reasons you listed above.
So what are the chances Lake Country would make a non-low-profile 4" CCS and Hydro-tech pad? I don't really like the whole low-profile thing. I'd rather have more protection between my polisher and the paint.