Griots, Flex, Rupes DA clone

Quiksilver5882 said:
How do you like the EVO21? Is it smooth? I wonder if the ZENTOOL21 and the EVO21 are the same.


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I don't have all that much time with it but my first impressions are cuts thru swirls and 2000 grit @ speed 4 with M100 and Lake Country HDO Blue pads. Little to no vibration, well balanced. My Flex 3401 has its place, but this is so much easier to use. No buyers remorse
 
VISITOR said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdBwcGtsw9Q
21mm Dual Action Polisher by Waxedshine (WS21)
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This appears to be the MaxShine unit (same company that makes the GG6) now if Griots would just start selling it.

At $299 it's not a great savings over a Rupes (of course it has more torque), but according to the MaxShine website you can use standard backing plates so a 5" won't be expensive.
 
ski2 said:
This appears to be the MaxShine unit (same company that makes the GG6) now if Griots would just start selling it.
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slap a Griot's sticker on the side and this looks exactly like what Griot's would put out (as you mentioned, Maxshine). I'm surpised that Griot's hasn't changed their current GG6 into the rotary body style like the megs mt300, torqq10fx. who knows, maybe soon...

[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCfutfWiDk0[/video]

in other news...
[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOZkAb0f7CU[/video]
 
Price seems to be very reasonable also--for $249 you get both a 6" and 5" backing plate and if it was a Griots AG could sell it--

•3 metre heavy duty lead (non kink)
•6” 150mm Vented pro backing plate
•5” 125mm additional backing plate
•Set of spare machine brushes
•Spanner
•D Shaped handle
•Instructions
•Finished in a high quality double wall printed box

Specifications
•Power: 880W 6 Speed 21mm Correctional throw
•6” & 5” Backing plates
•3 Metre anti kink HD cable
•220-240v
•1,800 - 4800 OPM
•Weight 2.7kg
 
You cannot cheap tool making. For such a mainstay in a detailer's arsenal, your main tools of the trade should never be inferior.
 
maybe someone will come out with a dual head 21mm throw polisher... :D
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It's the same knockoff Rupes clone. The manufacturer restricted it to one supplier in the U.S., don't even bother here. It runs around $270, might as well pony up and just get the real one.
 
You cannot cheap out tools. The motor, materials, and steel especially are probably sub par.

Just stay with the real deal. The Rupes guys are great people and have put a lot of effort into their system and really support Autogeek customers. Go for the real deal. I feel like ever since the Harbor Freight DA, everyone has been obsessed with cheap knockoff tools.
 
af90 said:
It's the same knockoff Rupes clone. The manufacturer restricted it to one supplier in the U.S., don't even bother here. It runs around $270, might as well pony up and just get the real one.
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Its a different one. You can tell by the speed selector being on the side or up top. I think the ones up top are Ansiauto (garbage) and on the side are Maxshine which are supposedly a step up.

ski2 said:
This looks like the Maxshine polisher (same company that makes the Griots)--haven't seen this offered in the US by anyone.
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I agree and am surprised nobody has brought it to the US...especially Chemical Guys since they are already selling it.

ryandamartini said:
Just stay with the real deal. The Rupes guys are great people and have put a lot of effort into their system and really support Autogeek customers. Go for the real deal. I feel like ever since the Harbor Freight DA, everyone has been obsessed with cheap knockoff tools.
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All the PC style DAs are knockoffs of one another. Some people love the HF DA for $60 rather than buying a GG or Megs unit. Not everyone can throw $400 at a machine so its good to have cheaper options, wouldnt you agree?
 
d33p said:
Its a different one. You can tell by the speed selector being on the side or up top. I think the ones up top are Ansiauto (garbage) and on the side are Maxshine which are supposedly a step up.



I agree and am surprised nobody has brought it to the US...especially Chemical Guys since they are already selling it.



All the PC style DAs are knockoffs of one another. Some people love the HF DA for $60 rather than buying a GG or Megs unit. Not everyone can throw $400 at a machine so its good to have cheaper options, wouldnt you agree?
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There are posts with foam inside the gear housing, clumped grease, people breaking the machine modding it, spindles failing inside a year, and some just.. not turning on out of the box. If you're doing this professionally, no I do not understand cheaping out the tool that will bring your paycheck in.

Instead of disassembling a tool to repack grease, flip switches around, etc, just get the 7424XP or GG that will work for years with no complaint. The race to the bottom never works out well for anyone in the end. So, no if you cannot afford an extra $60 to ensure you have a tool that will last and do the job for years on end, you should probably rethink how you do business. Fact is no one had a problem with the PC/GG until 60$ knockoff came out.There is no redeeming factor in this machine quality wise over established professional tools other than that it is CHEAP.
 
d33p said:
All the PC style DAs are knockoffs of one another. Some people love the HF DA for $60 rather than buying a GG or Megs unit. Not everyone can throw $400 at a machine so its good to have cheaper options, wouldnt you agree?
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I have no issue with going with a cheaper alternative if the price makes up for it as well as cheaper alternatives on the market. Spending $60 on a HF DA rather than just waiting for a sale on the Griot's for it to come down to $90 I don't think is worth it, but if you want a second one or don't want to wait then sure it's your money.

As for the Rupes knock, if it was less than $150 and easily ordered it would be much more enticing choice or add on. But at $280 in the U.S. at least from the only distributor I know of, compared to $350 for a Rupes or finding it on sale for less. Then at that price point I don't see the money saved being worth it.
 
ryandamartini said:
There are posts with foam inside the gear housing, clumped grease, people breaking the machine modding it, spindles failing inside a year, and some just.. not turning on out of the box. If you're doing this professionally, no I do not understand cheaping out the tool that will bring your paycheck in.

Instead of disassembling a tool to repack grease, flip switches around, etc, just get the 7424XP or GG that will work for years with no complaint. The race to the bottom never works out well for anyone in the end. So, no if you cannot afford an extra $60 to ensure you have a tool that will last and do the job for years on end, you should probably rethink how you do business. Fact is no one had a problem with the PC/GG until 60$ knockoff came out.There is no redeeming factor in this machine quality wise over established professional tools other than that it is CHEAP.
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You are talking from a pro detailers perspective, Im not. Personally I love the fact that the HF DA exists so people can get in on the entry level and then down the road.... upgrade!
 
af90 said:
I have no issue with going with a cheaper alternative if the price makes up for it as well as cheaper alternatives on the market. Spending $60 on a HF DA rather than just waiting for a sale on the Griot's for it to come down to $90 I don't think is worth it, but if you want a second one or don't want to wait then sure it's your money.

As for the Rupes knock, if it was less than $150 and easily ordered it would be much more enticing choice or add on. But at $280 in the U.S. at least from the only distributor I know of, compared to $350 for a Rupes or finding it on sale for less. Then at that price point I don't see the money saved being worth it.
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Well not everyone knows about sales, they care about the bottom line (price). I do agree that the knockoff Rupes are too expensive though. At $200 it would be far more enticing.
 
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