Griots Garage 6in buffer

Real Riders said:
Can you use the 6" Griots Foam Pads on a 6" Griots Buffer with a 6" backing plate or should you use 6.5" pads?
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Hey, when I came to Griot's Garage last year, I evaluated their entire buffing pad line and redesigned it from the ground up. The new pads are 3", 4", 5.5" and 6". We ensured there was a safe distance between backing plate and pad, by chamfering the edge. We no longer offer a 6" pad, as it is too close a proximity to the backing plate and could lead to paint damage. The new pads feature a thermal-set bond and will not delaminates. All the pads use reticulated foam , so they're made of the most durable foam available. This also aids in cooling. The shot of the pad with deteriorated foam is likely from applying too much pressure and not rotating pads. Some great comments mentioned above btw. I'd use a minimum of 2-3 pads for average vehicle. Frequently cleaning the pads is essential too, as they will absorb compound and polish increasing their weight by as much as 100%. This added weight will increase the wear on the bonding of the pad and deteriorate foam as well

Ps Fast Correcting Cream wipes off nicely. It won't oil out and clot/dry on the surface. In product development, I believe to deliver optimal performance, a product should be specifically designed for the application method. But that's a whole other discussion.
 
Brownie said:
Hey, when I came to Griot's Garage last year, I evaluated their entire buffing pad line and redesigned it from the ground up. The new pads are 3", 4", 5.5" and 6". We ensured there was a safe distance between backing plate and pad, by chamfering the edge. We no longer offer a 6" pad, as it is too close a proximity to the backing plate and could lead to paint damage. The new pads feature a thermal-set bond and will not delaminates. All the pads use reticulated foam , so they're made of the most durable foam available. This also aids in cooling. The shot of the pad with deteriorated foam is likely from applying too much pressure and not rotating pads. Some great comments mentioned above btw. I'd use a minimum of 2-3 pads for average vehicle. Frequently cleaning the pads is essential too, as they will absorb compound and polish increasing their weight by as much as 100%. This added weight will increase the wear on the bonding of the pad and deteriorate foam as well

Ps Fast Correcting Cream wipes off nicely. It won't oil out and clot/dry on the surface. In product development, I believe to deliver optimal performance, a product should be specifically designed for the application method. But that's a whole other discussion.
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Thanks for the info but I am still confused on what size pad to use on a 6" buffer with a 6" backing plate?
 
Real Riders said:
Thanks for the info but I am still confused on what size pad to use on a 6" buffer with a 6" backing plate?
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For Foam Pads... a 6.5" pad is ideal for a 6" Backing Plate
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For Microfiber Pads- a 6"-6.5" Pad is ideal.
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Griots Garage 6 inch BOSS Foam and Microfiber Pads
 
Hey Jeff,

Great to see someone so close on here. I am just down the road on 169 in Belle Plaine. New to what I would call professional detailing products. Always liked to see the way a freshly washed and waxed vehicle shines and turns heads. I recently ordered the G15 kit that is the current VIP deal. Itching to get my hands on it.

DeWayne
 
Brownie said:
I wanted to chime in quick and respond to your question.

The Flex 4301 is a great tool and due to its' 8mm forced rotation orbit it will deliver consistent defect correction throughout all panels...less dependent on technique. Personally, I've had a Flex 4301 since it was first introduced and have not had much time on it. Personal preference I guess.

As for the GG6, I've spent an insane amount of time with the Porter Cable, G110v2, Dewalt, MT300 orbitals and am confident the GG6 delivers the highest pad rotation available. Again, my opinion.

This rotation, combined with slow arm speed and the appropriate pad/liquid will deliver as much paint correction as anyone needs. There may be a trade off with increased time, relative to a Flex or Long-Throw Orbital.

Microfiber will contribute to the greatest correction. The fibers have less grab on the finish and will increase pad rotation. This combined with the mechanical cutting of the fiber will cut very efficiently. Drawback- micro marring may be evident on some clears.

Foam- will finish out better, but sacrifice in correction.

One solution you may consider is to use the Griot's Garage BOSS Pads (8mm thick) on the GG6. The pads will exhibit the following:
Reduced vibration (approximately 8-10grams lighter than comparable 1" pads)
Increase Pad Rotation - there is less absorption of energy which more efficiently transfers energy to the paint- byproduct - rotation
Increase stability- due to the lower center of gravity, the tool will be easier to control and more comfortable.

One of my personal favorites is the BOSS FAST Correcting Foam Pad- white. It cuts on the heals of microfiber, but will finish out with no micro-marring on most finishes.

I'm speaking from personal experience here.. not simply pushing one tool, pad or liquid over another. Please let me know if you've got additional questions.

PS- M105 and M205 are fantastic! I was fortunate to be part of the team at Meguiar's whom helped create them. Along side Jason Rose and team, it was a pleasure. M105 tends to dust and micro-mar oem finishes while used with an orbital. Suggest to check out Griot's Garage FAST Correcting Cream- a sub-micron abrasive which will cut as well as M105, but finish out better with no dust (most environments)
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thanks for the great info jeff, very much appreciated! :dblthumb2:
 
DCarnley said:
Hey Jeff,

Great to see someone so close on here. I am just down the road on 169 in Belle Plaine. New to what I would call professional detailing products. Always liked to see the way a freshly washed and waxed vehicle shines and turns heads. I recently ordered the G15 kit that is the current VIP deal. Itching to get my hands on it.

DeWayne
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Awesome DeWayne. Please let me know if you've got any questions on The BOSS. I'd love to hear what you think of it. Thanks again!!! Appreciate it very much
 
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