Griots Garage Air Pulse Cleaning gun Requires 8.97 cfm @ 90 psi flow rate...lol

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Griots Garage Air Pulse Cleaning gun Requires 8.97 cfm @ 90 psi flow rate....###????

Who actually owns a compressor capable of meeting these specifications??? I checked and it's listed the same on the griots garage website so it must be accurate. Unreal.
 
Oh, and I checked their site to see the operating pressure of the air compressor griots sells on their site for $350 and it has an operating pressure of 4.2cfm at 90PSI which is not even a little bit close to what this tool requires.lol
 
Compressors(60 gallon stationary ones that run on 240v) that meet that requirement can be had for about $400 + tax at certain times of the year.
 
If I remember how all that works, I believe that it is just saying that is the minimum air requirements needed to operate correctly. But it does seem to be a lot of cfm for an auto cleaning tool...I haven't used that and would like to try it but for comparison I have a pair of pneumatic due grinder that operates at 8 cfm. It may be due to the constant use of the air compared to like a nailer that is just intermittent use.

But it would take a larger HP compressor and yak to operate or the use of an air pig.


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I love Griots products, but the Tornador Black requires half the cfm and works so well. I didn't really look at the Griots product carefully, but why would you chose this over the black? They seem to be the same but needs less cfm which means possibly a cheaper compressor?


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adamgayton81 said:
My 6hp 80 gallon IR meets it.


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Well mr fancy pants, I am official jealous of the size of your compressor. Do you know if there is a portable oil free compressor capable of producing that much air? i bought a 30 gallon oil free dewalt last year for over $500 because it was capable of 6cfm@90psi which I thought was pretty impressive. But it seems like detailer that want to use this tool will HAVE to have a stationary unit and work out of a shop.
 
Dmb5450 said:
I love Griots products, but the Tornador Black requires half the cfm and works so well. I didn't really look at the Griots product carefully, but why would you chose this over the black? They seem to be the same but needs less cfm which means possibly a cheaper compressor?


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i completely agree and that was what I immediately thought of when I originally saw that. Sure wish Mike would chime in with his thoughts!
 
mwoywod said:
Well mr fancy pants, I am official jealous of the size of your compressor. Do you know if there is a portable oil free compressor capable of producing that much air? i bought a 30 gallon oil free dewalt last year for over $500 because it was capable of 6cfm@90psi which I thought was pretty impressive. But it seems like detailer that want to use this tool will HAVE to have a stationary unit and work out of a shop.
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lol I know I know...but it's not portable at all. I will look up some things and see if I can help find ya something. But like I mentioned in another post, seems crazy for the CFM required for that. I'm not sure of the portability though as most portables I know are around 4-5 cfm at 90 psi (due to mainly being used as brad nailers and framing nail guns...momentary use and stops.


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You realisticallly need a two stage compressor that compresses in the neighborhood of 175psi. Mine is a Quincy I got through Northern Tool (Baldor motor; Penny (sp?) compressor). It was about a thousand after sale and $200 gift card I received. But, it's not portable. I don't know if they have a portable one.
 
Yeah, about the only way to make 2 stage portable would be to separate the tank from the motor/compressor/controller etc. It could be done with a piece of compressure hose. It would just depend on how motivated one was

It would probably be best to consult with a company that specializes in compressors (google an industrial compressor for these type of dealers) if anyone was interested in doing this.
 
mwoywod said:
Griots Garage Air Pulse Cleaning gun Requires 8.97 cfm @ 90 psi flow rate....###????

Who actually owns a compressor capable of meeting these specifications??? I checked and it's listed the same on the griots garage website so it must be accurate. Unreal.
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Exactly what I thought. I am mobile. I carry a BIG air compressor already but even it doesn't have 8.97 cfm. In fact, no air tool that I own, including impact wrenches, needs 8.97 at 90.
 
mwoywod said:
Griots Garage Air Pulse Cleaning gun Requires 8.97 cfm @ 90 psi flow rate....###????

Who actually owns a compressor capable of meeting these specifications??? I checked and it's listed the same on the griots garage website so it must be accurate. Unreal.
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Agreed. Once I read that, I immediately disregarded the product. The tool requires a LARGE compressor which most don't have(including a lot of professionals). Not sure what they were thinking.
 
mwoywod said:
i completely agree and that was what I immediately thought of when I originally saw that.

Sure wish Mike would chime in with his thoughts!
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Air tools, for the most part, large or small are Air Hogs.


They do have the cool factor though


I've writing my reviews for the new Griot's air tools today and Yancy is finishing up the videos we shot for these new tools.

Suffice to say, in order to use these tools and "most" air tools, you need a large compressor, normally with a minimum of a 60 gallon compressed air tank in order to supply and maintain up to 8+ CFM at 90 PSI for extended time.

I actually covered this topic in my RUPES how-to book on page 16.


I'll send the link to this thread to Jeff Brown at Griot's and see if he has time to chime in...

Big picture is this, air tools like these are best for garage and shop use where you have a large stationary air compressor. I know this lets some people down but that's the state of technology.



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I'm generally not a fan of the tornado type tools, but has anyone used this thing yet? I hate interiors so much I would actually consider upgrading if this was somehow much better than anything else on the market.

Why do I have to go over every square millimeter of fabric 4 or 5 times, brush the heck out of it, and STILL, dog fur everywhere?
 
As Mike noted above, most air tools simply use a lot of air.

For reference, my Rupes LHR75 requires 11.3 CFM, my TA50 requires 11.7 CFM, and my BOSS 3" rotary requires 3 CFM.

This HF 10gal compressor is $135 and puts out 5.3 CFM @ 90psi
 
I think most of Griots products are geared for the shop, or garage...hence there slogan "Have fun in your garage". On there website, many of the items they sell are meant for either your home garage, or a professional shop.
 
Here's examples of 60 gallon air compressors. Each of these air compressors offer 60 gallon air tanks and stand approximately 6’ tall.


15.8 CFM at 90 PSI
http://www.harborfreight.com/air-to...n-165-psi-two-stage-air-compressor-55391.html

11.5 SCFM at 90 PSI
http://www.lowes.com/pd_54284-1126-VT6362_0__?productId=3370356

10.2 SCFM at 90 PSI
DEWALT 60 Gal. Vertical Stationary Electric Air Compressor-DXCMLA3706056 - The Home Depot


The above are probably inline for anyone that really wants to use a LOT of air tools and use them a lot --> run them a lot.


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Well thank you for the response Mike. I'm looking forward to your article, I'm hoping it will give me a better understanding of why I would want to purchase the griot's tool over a similar tool (tornador black) that only requires 4.5 cfm @ 90psi to operate.
 
8.97 is a lot for a tool like that but not unrealistic for an air tool. Remember that 8.97 CFM is for continuous running. So if you are using it in 30 second burst cut that CFM in half. That's gonna or a PITA but doable for smaller compressors. Thing is that you are gonna have the compressor running continuously while using the tool if you have a smaller compressor. Definitely not mobile detailed friendly IMO. Looking forward what Griots has to say. One guess why it is double the Black is it must be more effective. If anyone is serious about their shop and running a lot of air tools I highly suggest the Ingersol rand 80 gallon 7.5 HP. But that's if your serious about using air tools and has a hefty price tag. I went thru 5 different compressors thru the years until I splurged and got it.
 
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